topic Re: MyLabVIEW Features in BreakPoint

MyLabVIEW Features

JÞB — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:39:50 GMT

a link to one Idea Exchange thread needs more discussion and ideas MyLabVIEW

Some "MyLabVIEW features that need support are

My ini (Cloud based)
My Toolkits ( License manager is "Almost there")
My Frameworks - should import and mass compile
My Templates (Icons)
My Templates (projects)- who named them both the same?)
My Glyphs
My Paletts (My Favorites and My view options are essential MyIni Components)

Some other My-stuff has got to be "Essential" to some of you.. Help get the cloud defined with your "Silver lining" here!

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

altenbach — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:43:35 GMT

My remote panels 😄

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

crossrulz — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:47:02 GMT

My (QuickDrop) Plugins

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

Hornless.Rhino — Wed, 12 Mar 2014 03:11:54 GMT

My Sharona

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

Intaris — Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:16:22 GMT

My Device drivers (navigating version hell)
My device Aliases (MAX Configuration?)

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

JÞB — Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:59:42 GMT

@Intaris wrote:

My Device drivers (navigating version hell)

My device Aliases (MAX Configuration?)

As long as you are going there Shane, (and I completely agree with you) See also:

http://forums.ni.com/t5/Additional-NI-Software-Idea/Project-and-Workspace-Context-in-MAX/idi-p/1851171

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Simulated-Devices-in-LabVIEW-projects/idc-p/1851177#M16415

http://forums.ni.com/t5/NI-TestStand-Idea-Exchange/Simulated-Devices-in-TestStand-Workspaces/idi-p/1851173#comment-on-this

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

GregSands — Wed, 12 Mar 2014 20:38:19 GMT

Some that are easy to miss are modifications inside the LabVIEW resource directory. For example:

New Class Accessor naming at <LabVIEW>\resource\Framework\Providers\LVClassLibrary\NewAccessors\CLSUIP_LocalizedStrings.vi

Icon editor changes at <LabVIEW>\resource\plugins

Perhaps these need to be moved outside <resource> anyway.

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

James@Work — Sat, 15 Mar 2014 14:03:18 GMT

My Options

All of them... from using double-click to open control editor, to grid sizes, to deselecting auto-grow and everything else.

This one is simple, but should be automatic from previous version.

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

JÞB — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 03:49:04 GMT

@JÞB wrote:
a link to one Idea Exchange thread needs more discussion and ideas MyLabVIEW

Some "MyLabVIEW features that need support are

My ini (Cloud based)
My Toolkits ( License manager is "Almost there")
My Frameworks - should import and mass compile
My Templates (Icons)
My Templates (projects)- who named them both the same?)
My Glyphs
My Paletts (My Favorites and My view options are essential MyIni Components)
Some other My-stuff has got to be "Essential" to some of you.. Help get the cloud defined with your "Silver lining" here!

Yes, I'm upgrading again.

The laptop is getting overheated. It might take all night to download all of the NI.com "Updates"

Hey, JKI I have not seen a prompt to Retry, Abort or Quit in the last decade! Amazing! Thanks for the throwback moment.

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

JÞB — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 04:40:32 GMT

Yes, I'm mostly pissed.

Really, it takes ALL DAY?

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

Hooovahh — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 12:47:16 GMT

EDIT: Sorry I guess I already gave this opinion in the idea exchange thread, where I guess I stated 3 hours a couple of years ago. Maybe my computer is faster or I didn't have an SSD.

So we all have different work flows, but I find installing a new version of LabVIEW, or reinstalling a whole system isn't that big of a deal for me. Every 6 months I download the newest developer suite DVDs (or copy them to a network location if they were shipped). Then I combine the DVDs into a single folder on the network. The WebInstalls can also help with this a bit since you only need to download the installers you'll actually use, instead of all of the developer suite stuff.

Then I run the installer, which on a modern computer might take an hour or so to install that version of LabVIEW, device drivers, and various other LV tools. This only prompts once at the start, and once for the device drivers. No downloading required at this point cause all the tools are already on the network or external storage.

Then I install reuse with a single VIPC that we made which includes all our internal libraries, tools menu items, reuse palettes, project templates, icon editor glyphs, quick drop tools, documentation, examples, etc. And it sets up the INI keys with the settings that developers agree on. This also installs all the OpenG, MGI, and other packages without the internet. This all takes another 10 minutes or so but has no prompts or dialogs once it gets started.

Then my machine is 99% of the way setup. There are a few INI keys that I prefer that others might not so it isn't included in the VIPC, but I have a VI I wrote that makes these changes.

I'd say in 2 hours I have a fresh computer with everything installed and ready to open any proejct we might have made. PCs don't always have the internet, and networks can go down, which is why everything I've described can be done without it. I'm still a fan of your idea and voted for it, but we have a solution that has seemed to work well for a while now. I saw at other companies how when you have 15 developers, having to refresh or reinstall a PC would take all day. And with 15 developers someone needs to refresh their PC semi-often, so coming up with an automated solution was a time saver, even if it took some time setting up VIPM packages, and combining DVDs.

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

altenbach — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 15:21:33 GMT

Installing a big system with many modules (FPGA, etc.) and drivers really does take a day on a computer with a conventional HD. It is significantly faster with an SSD. Even uninstalling takes a day witouth SSD.

In the ideal case I just use the NI update Service, expand the "upgrades and service packs", and pick everything offered. (still need to tweak the INI, but that's about it. I have a bare INI with the lines important to me that I paste in place.

The main problem with this that it typically does not work if the current version is beta, but that's a different discussion. In that case I use the NI web based platform installer. Here we really need a way to have web based personalized package definitions that we can apply to automatically pick one of my install templates. Picking and chosing modules is still tedious (Small, non-resizable window, etc.). Instead ot having to search for a web-based installer, I should be able to go to my profile, pick one of my install sets, and it would create a customized web based installer for me that requires no further action. Then it should apply my web-based ini file at the end. Voila!

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

JÞB — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 19:43:58 GMT

Mostly just complianing. Its got to be faster! Something SCREAMS at me that it should not take all day!

Re: MyLabVIEW Features

altenbach — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:12:54 GMT

I think disk IO is the limiting factor. It creates huge temporary files, probably copies each small file separately after doing tons of dependency checks for each. Then verifies that all bit are written correctly before writing the next file... :). There has to be a better way!

(Just widely speculating, but that's how it feels like. I am probably completely wrong...)