06-21-2017 08:25 AM
@Ben wrote:
@Blokk wrote:
@AnalogKid2DigitalMan wrote:
Uff da, its HOT. 115F right now in PHX, forecast high is 120 today. Feels like I am taking a tour of the 'Helena Hand Basket' company. At least its a dry heat (for a couple more weeks).
-AK2DM
Uhh, it's more than 48 °C, that is crazy! We have this week in this part of Germany around 36... it is already too much for me. I am really happy for my "cave" (suterene) in such summer times, nice and cool, no need for AC system to waste energy. Well, Hobbits were very smart folks! 🙂
ps: i read somewhere that it might happen in 3-4 generations that the southern European countries will become practically inhabitable, at least to our European standards.
I had read the same thing back in the 70's ...
Spoilerbut is was supposed to be a global ice-age.
Interpolation works rather well, extrapolation is another matter all together.
I can not even get a decent forecast for what the weather will be more than five days out let alone 4 generations.
George Carlin used to do "The Hippy Dippy Weatherman" where he would predict that "tomorrow would start out dark and then gradually get lighter, ..."
Those were the days.. when weather reports included isobar maps and relative humidity. Long gone now.
Ben
Well, there is significant increase in the average temperatures, this is scientific fact. Of course, HOW you interpret the data, is another story. And what is our civilization's contribution to these changes. The time scale also matters, we can compare average temperatures / CO2 levels over the centuries, thousand years, etc...
06-21-2017 08:44 AM
I am not going to drag this Blokk.
If you believe that invest in beach-front property in Greenland. It will be worth a bundle.
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
Take care,
Ben
06-21-2017 08:52 AM
I agree with you! 🙂 Let us not going into nonconstructive arguments which will not make us happy! 🙂
hmm, i wonder how my English can create such sentences! 😄
ps.: I have a camping trip to Finnland in August! Lets see, I might stay up there! 🙂 Ok...winters are dark and loooong...
06-21-2017 09:09 AM
@Ben wrote:
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
While I agree with Altenbach, I must say that Breakpoint is generally the wild west of the forums with just about anything allowed to be discussed. We have the LAVA Lounge over on LAVA for such discussions, and I must admit my most hated thread over there is one that started out with a similar topic. Memorable quotes were created there, I think "Maybe Hoovah is really Crelf's alter-ego, which he uses to irk people?" came from there along with "If 10 out of 10 experts agree on something, you should probably listen."
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06-21-2017 09:11 AM
@Hooovahh wrote:
@Ben wrote:
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
While I agree with Altenbach, I must say that Breakpoint is generally the wild west of the forums with just about anything allowed to be discussed. We have the LAVA Lounge over on LAVA for such discussions, and I must admit my most hated thread over there is one that started out with a similar topic. Memorable quotes were created there, I think "Maybe Hoovah is really Crelf's alter-ego, which he uses to irk people?" came from there along with "If 10 out of 10 experts agree on something, you should probably listen."
Is that binary?
Ben
06-21-2017 09:25 AM
@Hooovahh wrote:
@Ben wrote:
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
While I agree with Altenbach, I must say that Breakpoint is generally the wild west of the forums with just about anything allowed to be discussed.
Although in the wild west there wasn't a record of everything you said word for word. Just don't say anything that you don't want to be quoted having said.
06-21-2017 09:31 AM
@Jacobson-ni wrote:
@Hooovahh wrote:
@Ben wrote:
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
While I agree with Altenbach, I must say that Breakpoint is generally the wild west of the forums with just about anything allowed to be discussed.
Although in the wild west there wasn't a record of everything you said word for word. Just don't say anything that you don't want to be quoted having said.
I can not say why exactly but that reminds of a silly thought that came to me while watching the sunset last night over the forest on the far hill...
"If a tree falls in the forest and there is not a smart phone to record it, does it make a sound?"
Ben
06-21-2017 09:36 AM
@Ben wrote:
@Jacobson-ni wrote:
@Hooovahh wrote:
@Ben wrote:
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
While I agree with Altenbach, I must say that Breakpoint is generally the wild west of the forums with just about anything allowed to be discussed.
Although in the wild west there wasn't a record of everything you said word for word. Just don't say anything that you don't want to be quoted having said.
I can not say why exactly but that reminds of a silly thought that came to me while watching the sunset last night over the forest on the far hill...
"If a tree falls in the forest and there is not a smart phone to record it, does it make a sound?"
Ben
The compiler of the computer code (which simulates the whole World and programmed by super intelligent extraterrestrial mice) will optimize out the sound! The compiler should recognize there are no active listeners in close distance of that falling tree.
06-21-2017 10:02 AM
They are not, technically, mice, that is only the physical representation they have used in this dimension, while testing us by running through our mazes and noting our reactions.
Happy first day of summer in the Northern Hemisphere, sadly it also represents the longest day of the year, and the beginning of the downhill slide until Winter devours the Sun.

06-21-2017 10:14 AM
@Ben wrote:
My belief is elsewhere but Christian Altenbach has declared discussion of religions as "off limits".
I don't recall. Do you have a link?
Science is not religion and the scientific principle is well defined. I tend to believe scientists that devote their life to a specific area more than any random politician or conspiracy theorist.