New Search Interface

[smercurio_fc]

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Laura F. wrote:

smercurio - when I follow your steps, I do see the first page of results but then it fairly quickly switches over to the results page I had been on.  Does it not switch for you?

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Yes, it switches. Eventually. I'm not sitting inside NI where you have all those nice speedy servers. Half the time I think Lithium doesn't take into consideration what it's like to get the pages out in the "real world".

[smercurio_fc]

Q: When does a search engine include terms you didn't want?

A: When you do a search using Lithium's search engine, of course.

I performed a search in this forum for "cursor" to try and find messages related to the constantly changing behavior of the cursor in the message edit box that occurs each time there is an upgrade (this time the cursor is no longer placed as active in the edit box after the page loads and I have to click in the edit box to start entering a reply). The result set that gets returned highlights your search term. Great. Except it highlights the word "message" as well. If you click on one of the found results, the web page shows the search terms highlighted. In my case it highlighted "message" as well as "cursor". I didn't search for "message". I searched for "cursor". Why is it searching for "message" as well? In fact, it also includes "message" as a search term regardless of what you enter as a search term.

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The subsections of the "LabVIEW" forum are in fact launching a search for the corresponding keyword (for instance "FPGA").

That's all good and fine, but the number of results can be large...(about 3000 for FPGA). The search engine seems to only allow a page by page discovery of the messages.

On first call, you get to see page 1 and have access to page 2. If you want to go to page 4, you have to read page 2 then page 3 (or at least load them).

That sounds like a weird limitation.

I suggest the good old fashion: five access to First, 1 2 3 ...9 10, Next 10, Last and provide the possibility to jump to any page.

My 2 cts.

[Laura F.]

smercurio - can you give me the search URL for what you described? I assume you had some filters or advanced search options selected because when I just do a plain search for cursor, I don't see message highlighted.

Thanks,

Laura

[smercurio_fc]

All I did was enter "cursor" (or whatever) right in the search box at the top. Something has changed because the behavior is no longer there. But I can tell you that I tried various search terms, and each and every time it included "message" as a highlighted search term result.

[smercurio_fc]

Saw a behavior that I was not expecting:

Say you're in a board and perform a search that returns a lot of results. There's the immediate problem of the number of pages shown at the bottom not matching the number of results, but I think this has been mentioned before. For example, if you search for "LabVIEW" in the LabVIEW forum you'll get 40,000 hits, but the page count at the bottom only says 2 pages. Must be really tiny results. Moving beyond that... move to, say, page 4 of the results for that search. Once you're there, change the search criteria. Let's say "GPIB". The result set is not 1,000, but you're still on page 4. I would have expected to be on page 1 of the result set for this new search. Every search engine I've ever used works that way.

[Darin.K]

Spoiler

Did you try a search?  This was brought up earlier on this thread.  (Sorry, couldn't resist). 

I knew I wasn't the only one, in my first reply to this thread:

Changing the search parameters leaves you on the original page, so I do a search, move to page 4, change the search and I am now on page 4 of the new search and have to move back.

Of course expecting this behavior does not make it any less annoying.  I guess there are at least two of us who move past the first page of results.  (Now I understand the battles to appear on the first page of Google results).

[smercurio_fc]

Ouch, that hurt. But it's well deserved.

To answer the question, yeah, I had searched, as well as having re-read the thread, but I obviously missed it completely.

[Darin.K]

A good craftsman never blames his tools, and you easily could have blamed the search engine.  (Please, please blame the search engine).

No pain intended or deserved, in fact it is your certified search-ninja skills that made it so ironic (too much for me to resist).   I am glad to see this issue getting bumped as it probably got lost in my laundry list of complaints. 

Spoiler

I probably wouldn't read my posts either... 

[smercurio_fc]

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@Darin.K wrote:

A good craftsman never blames his tools, and you easily could have blamed the search engine.  (Please, please blame the search engine).

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Well, all right, if you're going to twist my arm... it was the search engine! Yeah! It was the search engine! Not my lack of attentiveness of what was on my screen, or lack of comprehension of what I was reading, or lack of remembering because we now live in a Google society.

Hmmm... you know that last re-affirms that ...  it was the search engine! Yeah!