The LIST 2

[chilly_charly]

Message Edité par chilly charly le 09-05-2005 10:02 AM

[becktho]

Hi CC

Which field in the old enthusiasts file is "Replies" in E-List test.xls?

Thomas

[chilly_charly]

Too many problem with the web today.

I have just succeeded to delete ( third time !) all the text of my weekly message. Of course, no way to recover !

OK, start again :

List issue n° 34

I thought that this would be the first release of the new E-List.

Wrong. Last minute problems ( a lot of !!!) have delayed the event. Meanwhile, I hace attached a sample of what is coming.

You'll have to infer the significance of a number of new columns since I have no time to explain.

I'm waiting eagerly for your comments.

The E-ListVIEW is just a downgrade of the previous version, uglyly patched to be able to read the new format. Be patients.

The runners of the week are still the same. But the challenge for the fastest 24 h runner is opened. Molly is the provisionnal leader with 45 posts/24h.

But she has been cheating ! So we have to define rules !

8 or 9 new members this week. Don't remember who, but I'll take care of that soon.

The List holds now a lot of members, but this will change since applying the 50 replies rule will decrease significantly the List size (-20 %)

The files have been attached in my previous message.

[chilly_charly]

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becktho a écrit:

Which field in the old enthusiasts file is "Replies" in E-List test.xls?

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It's still "replies", but should be lower tant previously, since the follow-ups are counted separately. Don't hesitate to ask questions, that will help me to explain in detail the "novelties". Please report also the possible errors.

[becktho]

What exactly do you mean with follow-ups - I'm still thinking in replies and actual replies.

One more point - I can't open E-ListView because of missing vis (some 2D array operations of an openg toolkit).

[tst]

Well, you'll be happy to know that clicking one of the names in the viewer caused the profile page to come up in my browser, so I also lost my text.

I'm glad to see you rearranged the columns into a more human readable order. I still have some problems with understanding some of your methods. For example, how are you determining questions vs. threads (by board?)? And how do you know how many followups there are (I suppose when someone replies in their own thread it's almost always a followup).

I'm also glad to see that you and I also joined the ranks of those who had 136 years of rest (50,000 days). I guess that means you used up all your vacation time?

I'm not sure we really need all those columns (for example, stars\contrib or highest rating # or last connection), because too much data makes it harder to find the important data, but I guess that because they're near the end it doesn't really matter.

I will reply more privately.

BTW, some of the VIs were not included and had to be opened from version 1.4.

Oh, and it wasn't yellow. It was GOLD.

Message Edited by tst on 09-05-2005 11:28 AM

[becktho]

I agree with tst - I think there are too many columns.

I'd prefer replies and actual replies - similar to the old file. The replies /day, /week, /month is ok. Average stars given is also something I look at sometimes - but the rest - I think it's not so necessary.

Thomas

[chilly_charly]

Hi Becktho !

Sorry for the missing vi's. You should be able to find them in the previous release.
On another hand, if you don't have the openG toolkit, you should install it. Go to openG. There are a lot of very usefull tools there !

A follow-up is a reply to one of your own questions.

Examples :
1/ (User) Speed Control - Hi, i have connected my computer to my Ferrari, but I still can't control my speed on the motorway. Could you help me ?
2/ (tst) Re: Speed Control - You should post an example of your program. I suggest you go here and here (etc...)
3/ (User) Re: Speed Control - I have attached my vi
4/ (JLV) Re: Speed Control - May be you should use a bicycle. :D:D:D LOL
5/ (Altenbach) Re: Speed Control - I made some modifications to your original vi.

etc...

1 is a Question
2, 4 and 5 are replies (...actual replies).
3 is a follow-up

4 should be counted as a Break contribution, but I don't think I'm going to implement semantic analysis in my program ;). That's a chance for JLV ! 😄 (and me ;))
The technical level of 2 and 4 is different. There is some chance that this will be accounted for (at least partially...) by the ratings and the attachment type.
That's where multivariate data analysis comes in : using the large number of variables, it will create an Enthusiasm index, variable that maximizes the "distance" between Enthusiasts.

There are a number of other refinements that I'll disclose later.

E-ListVIEW will have a "Select Displayed Parameter" option. Be patient.

[tst]

Some additional comments:

1. Are you suggesting that JLV uses the icon a lot? I hadn't noticed...
2. How come in your list Ben has 83 started threads when his profile shows well over 100?
3. And how come Greg has 21 breaks?
4. And why does he have 1952 contribs when he should have 32 more?
5. And why don't we have an yearly activity (not that I mind)?
6. Do you have an exception table for the follow ups for threads which aren't pure breaks, but which are not questions either (icons threads, list threads, Molly-we-have-a-problem threads)?

As a positive point, I do like that the stars are now with 2 decimal places (is that your calculation?). Did you notice that I'm only 7 stars behind you (although you have much less posts, so your ratio is better  )?

[RayFarmer]

this is getting very confusing, I perfer the old fashion way....some asks a question ...someone else answers it