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James@Work

Eliminate Palette Space added with LV2016

Status: New

After reading Restore High Contrast Icons I procrastinated as long as possible before installing LV2016.  When I finally did, I was disappointed by the additional space required for the palettes; all of them!  I have been using LabVIEW since 5.0 and switched to an Icon view of the palettes shortly after getting comfortable with the graphics.  Now, I have to move my mouse further to get to each sub-menu and VI selection.  It's a waste of developer's time and apparently done for absolutely no good reason except to make a change; very similar to the washed out icons.

This extra space needs to be removed or at least an option provided to set the spacing back to the condensed spacing always available.

These images to show the relative size of the palettes LV2016 vs. 2015.

Controls Palette

ControlsPalette

BoolenPalette

Functions Palette

FunctionsPalette.png

ArrayPalette

 

Yes, this might seem trivial, until you think about traversing several palettes to get to your needed VI.

 

FTPPalette

*Random example, if one were doing FTP development they'd pin the menu.

** The original size of the above graphic is 1030 pixels wide; less than 800 for 2015.

 

Quit messing with what works and has become the standard with regards to options.  At least when that ridiculous "default" setting for icons instead of terminals was introduced we could undo the setting in Options

It seems that NI has hired some non-G experts to mess up the interface simply so they can enumerate all the "great" improvements they've made.  Or, was all the extra space to make sure newbies couldn't miss the folder tab, since connecting the "right arrow" on an icon to it being a sub-folder would be too difficult for children?

 

Tech Advisor - Automation
LabVIEW 5.0 - 2020
27 Comments
Rob_Calhoun
Member

Hi, I'm a long-time heavy user just switching from LV2015 to LV2017. I found this post while trying to find a "PalettePaddingPixels=0" option for LabVIEW.ini. (Hopefully right next to "SuperSecretPrivateSpecialStuff"!)

 

I'll adapt, but I don't want to be counted as one of the "silent majority" who like this change. For me it's not about the deep palettes so much as the as the ~15% greater motion required to hit the mundane functions like "bundle by name". (Soon to be known as "control-space, B, U, N, down-arrow, return, click"?)  It just adds another (hundred?) miles of repetitive strain injury-inducing mouse motion a year.

 

Greg, I know we long-time users tend to say "hey you kids, get off my lawn!" whenever anything changes, but changes that reduce coding efficiency hit us pretty hard. Please keep that in mind when trying to make things "easier to use". (I am grateful that NI has not inflicted the whirlwind of UI changes that Adobe has with Photoshop...measuring a distance in pixels is different in every version!)

 

-Rob Calhoun

 

2017, 312x208 px2017, 312x208 px2015, 312x208 px2015, 312x208 px

 

 

crossrulz
Knight of NI

Rob, "Bundle By Name" is Ctl+Space, BBN, then click where you want it.  See here for a little more information on shortcuts that are now built into QuickDrop.


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Just an FYI bundle by name now has a simpler QuickDrop of 'bbn'.  Inserting with CTRL+I is a very common feature I use.  If you find that padding INI I'd be interested too.

CappellaioMatto
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now that i've switched to labview 2018 the palette no longer stay on my laptop monitor. hd ready 1440x900.

 

and even for the fullhd monitors at work is too big. too waste of space. this is not my opinion. this is really a waste of space.

 

using lv for at least 8 years.

 

very disappointed... from Italy.

James@Work
Member

Dear Greg McKaskle,

 

Well, I have been using the new spaced out palettes (I use Icon Only view) for a while now and I still don't like it!  Everything cannot be a QD and when I go to my palettes the extra space (mouse or trackball) to traverse them still creates additional effort and reduced efficiency..

 

So, if you preference is to have space, turn on the text!

Otherwise, reduce the spacing in Icon Only view reduce strain and increase our programming efficiency.

 

James

 

PS. Not sure if it was related, I never had any problems from LV 5.0 to LV2013.

However, 6 months after jumping to LV2016 I developed DeQuervain's Tendonitis and after 12 months surgery was my only option.  Maybe my thumb was overworked on the trackball with all that extra movement?  And, maybe it was completely unrelated?

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LabVIEW 5.0 - 2020
as_sk
Member

Is there a chance at least to get mentioned "PalettePaddingPixels" option in INI config file ?

dj_tony
Member

NO!!!!!. of course NI will not do the right thing another time....

i'm wondering if at NI they use their own SW.

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