Documentation of Labview Vis

[waldemar.hersacher]

Hi Ben,

 I'm now at home and using Firefox 3.0.3 displaying the web site you linked. In IE at the office I could see the images, but here I only see the alt text. Also in the navigation pane the icons changed from a rectangle with the IE sign in the upper left corner to now one with the Netscape icon. Unfortunatly it seems that the creator of the framework Alchemy Computing Limited does not exist anymore.

[Ben]

Thanks for the heads up!

I'll pass that along.

Ben

[tst]

Igor, there's no need to put that link in every single thread that has ever talked about documentation (I've seen it now here, in the IE, in the community and on LAVA). It's basically spamming.

[Igor_Titov]

tst, I can discuss this opinion, but where is my post? Was it you who deleted it?

[tst]

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@Igor_Titov wrote:

@tsttst, I can discuss this opinion, but where is my post? Was it you who deleted it?

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No, not me. I don't think I would even if I did have the permissions to do it. I'm assuming other people reported it as spam (I don't think I did) and a moderator removed it. My experience has been that when a moderator removes one of my posts, they usually send me an email or personal message telling me about it, but I'm assuming in this case they thought the reasons would be obvious to you (or they don't care that much about what people they think are spammers will think of the removal).

[Igor_Titov]

The short reply to your original comment is that HELPer is very relevent here, and you shouldn't call this 'spam'. This forum is so valuable for LabVIEW community because of information we share. By making comments like you did, and having so great reputation as you have, you probably encouraged moderator to delete the link to the HELPer tool. And it was much more useful information for many people than many other posts in this thread. HELPer allows creating a LabVIEW documentation of a high quality, has other advantages over similar tools and it's free. I myself a few years ago would love to find such a tool on this forum. What I found I didn't find satisfactory, so I created this one. If you bother to check the link, you'll see that everyone can download and use it for free, not even requiring registration (as was suggested by NI to track users and to push this add-on up to Silver and Gold level - I tried and found that for the end user it wouldn't be very convenient, so I declined the idea). Or maybe you suggest that next thing I make I should give away for money? It's quite plausibly so, I'll think about it. I thought that when I give away something like HELPer for free, I accelerate our technical and scientific progress (and that's what I want) by a tiny amount, because the next developer won't need to waste time again to go the same path. But now I see that probably people just don't value something that was given for free and call this a 'spam'. If your point is that the link to HELPer appeared in 4 or 5 threads, then again - all of them not about crocodiles in Australia, and not even about LV OOP - they are all about documenting VIs. If you think that this is unacceptable then 1) ask moderators why there are similar threads at all, and why people fork them, 2) post a comment similar to that you posted here on every subject that is happened to be discussed elsewhere more than just in 1 place. 

Thank you very much for keeping eye on forum and helping in many other ways, but I'm sure in this particular place you misfired.

But of course I would like to talk to moderators about them deleting my post - it's a pity I can't do that because they are anonimous...

Cheers!

[tst]

My comment wasn't about the tool being free or about its quality or relevance, nor was it directed at the moderator. The comment was directed at you and it was meant only to stop you from continuing to post to old threads, after you have done it here and in other places, which is what I referred to as spamming. Even if it's relevant and someone would come across it in the future by searching, that's still not a good reason for doing that.

That said, I agree that there was no point in deleting the message after it was already posted. I'm assuming the moderator interpreted my spam comment as the classic type of spam or that someone else they trust made similar comments. If you want to discuss this with a moderator, you can click the post options link and report the post to a moderator, explaining what you want, or you could send a private message to Jordan, who's the one running things, or you could start a thread on the feedback board, if you want to have a public discussion - http://forums.ni.com/t5/Feedback-on-NI-Discussion-Forums/bd-p/130 .

As a side point, I fully encourage creating useful tools for the LV users community, both free and commercial, and I certainly have no problem with people linking to them as an answer. In this specific case, I can't comment on the quality of this specific tool, although I will say that I did see exactly the same problems in the website Rolf commented on elsewhere.