02-25-2015 10:44 PM
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You're probably better off trying it yourself to see if it works than waiting for them to reply. That's the danger in bumping zombie threads.
02-25-2015 10:47 PM
essentially no, if you need to demo code use some desktop share link like go to meetingmeeting, links or WebEx demo the code operation on your development machine or on it target machine that is under your control.
Don't give them what they haven't paid for! when they love it they'll be happy to pay for it and install whatever they need to install.after all they're probably installing applications all day every day anyhow like office
02-27-2015 02:33 PM
"essentially no, if you need to demo code use some desktop share link like go to meetingmeeting, links or WebEx demo the code operation on your development machine or on it target machine that is under your control."
Obviously, you missed the point. Also, if you make such demands to your potential customers, they will reject you, and your boss may either reassign you to a low profile task, or see you out the door.
Website access with large companies are becoming increasingly restricted, especially if your company has deployed Websense. Web based demonstrations will likely become more prevelant, and NI is in the right direction with this.
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"Don't give them what they haven't paid for! when they love it they'll be happy to pay for it and install whatever they need to install.after all they're probably installing applications all day every day anyhow like office"
What the heck does this mean? No relevance to the discussion. We licensed developers with Application Builder are free to make executables from LabVIEW Development Suite, and runtime engines are a free download from NI. Nothing here advocates 'copying' or other illegal activities. B ut if one is on the road, without a laptop, and want to demonstrate an application to a potential customer - you, the vendor better not insist to your potential customer that they 'have to' install a runtime engine, or any other installable software on their computers for 'your' sale/demo. You will be shown the front door. This is especially the case with large companies that hire a professional computer service company to deploy computers and software on those computers.
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Prior to LabVIEW 2009, you can make a program, compile as an executable using Application Builder, and run that executable without installing runtime engine by copying the runtime files to a USB stick, and copy your LabVIEW application in the same folder as the runtime. Your application will run, without software installation.
Wireless devices, such as tablets, has become more prolific - and some demos can take advantage of the web browser interface/plugins, though again, may be filtered by large company internet access software suites.
02-27-2015 02:51 PM
Earlier I made a remark if NI was listening, and IBM.
For 15 years, LabVIEW had been running strong, but the new engineers are bringing a new product into our view - Simulink. I know little about Simulink, but know enough that it is a Mathworks product, it is more preferred by the new engineers than LabVIEW, and the cost to entry for personal use is much lower than LabVIEW, compare $250 for Matlab/Simulink for personal use and thousands of dollars for LabVIEW. I may be prophetic...
I still advocate LabVIEW, and my statements are really in favor of LabVIEW. But the Simulink chatter in the background keeps getting louder.
This concept has been bought up and declined by NI. See this page: http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Noncommercial-Hobby-Home-license-for-LabVIEW/idi-p/110...
Status: Declined
02-27-2015 02:55 PM
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02-27-2015 03:07 PM
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02-27-2015 10:07 PM
Simulink "NEW?". My training cert dates back thirteen years and it wasn't new then.
And, there ain't no hobby license there either. Not even a app builder or free runtime engine, you need a license to run the script or model
02-28-2015 08:47 AM - edited 02-28-2015 08:53 AM
I should have clarified my remarks... Not saying Simulink is new, wasn't even in my view 15 years ago. What is new is the 'discussion' of using instead of LabVIEW is new. They may have made inroads with college students, who bring what they used with them. I am just guessing, and I can confirm this by asking newly graduated engineers if Matlab/Simulink was used in school, and compare that to those who have used LabVIEW in school. Keep in mind that it is a natural tendency of college students to bring to the professional workforce what they used in school. This is common sense.
Neither was I implying that Matlab/Simulink was free, it isn't. But it is affordable for the personal/hobby use.
02-28-2015 08:49 AM
@N1LAF wrote:
"You're probably better off trying it yourself to see if it works than waiting for them to reply. That's the danger in bumping zombie threads."
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Do you think more posters return or don't?
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As far as prophetic, Simulink existed back when you made that post as well.
02-28-2015 08:56 AM
"Do you think more posters return or don't?"
- Depends on the individual and thier interest level.
"As far as prophetic, Simulink existed back when you made that post as well."
- Please read/reread my last post, should explain this. The futurelook is that those who work the colleges better, with better prices, have a better chance of overtaking the competition.