10-31-2005 04:13 PM
@LV_Pro wrote:
He (JL) was sort of styled after Hortatio Hornblower
It's interesting you should say that, because I have read "The making of Star Trek", where it was repeatedly stated that the series (the original) is visioned as "Hornblower in space", and Kirk is different from Picard. Then again, while it doesn't out right say that Bill Shatner was a good actor, it is the general theme of his description, so maybe we shouldn't attach too much importance to that. ![]()
BTW, one thing that was made clear in that book is that the ST team was very funny. For example, and I think this re-defines the term "punch line", at one point in the book there is a memo sent by Gene Roddenberry to Bob Justman, who was the producer, telling him that they should come up with serious scientific names for their gadgets, because calling them "Feinbergs" (after the show's prop master, Irving Feinberg) causes people not to be serious about it. Remember all these names. I will now add Justman's response:
To: Gene Roddenberry Date: March 20, 1967
From: Bob Justman Subject: S.F. Terminology
Dear Mr. Roddenberry,
I am in receipt of your memo of 3-20-67, in which you suggest we use "straight scientific names for our gadgetry....". I think you are correct in your feeling that we should encourage others to take a more serious view of out items and objects. Therefore, I feel that we should no longer use the term "Feinberg" as a substitute name for gadget. You are right in insisting upon our attempting to create and maintain high believability in Star Trek.
Therefore, I, for one, intend to dispense with all the jokes and levity I have undertaken this past season. I feel that in this way I can set an example for the rest of our fellow workers.
Very truly yours,
Robert H. Feinberg
Associate producer
Those who haven't understood the joke immediately are probably still wondering what it is, while those who realized are probably rolling on the floor. If no one is rolling on the floor, then I guess you need to read the book for it to impact you, and the book in general will probably be pretty boring for most people because it talks about how to make a TV series in the 60s.
BTW, even though I have watched most Trek stuff out there and read "The making of ST" and "The trouble with tribbles" and "The world of ST" and "The making of ST:DS9" and "The science of ST" and have seen the "Trekkies" movie, I am not a trekkie. Just someone who likes TV, movies and SF and has a moderately good memory for certain things.
10-31-2005 04:48 PM
I am beggining to suspect that under that long hair there are pointy ears.
Ben
10-31-2005 05:02 PM
tst says:
Those who haven't understood the joke immediately are probably still wondering what it is, while those who realized are probably rolling on the floor. If no one is rolling on the floor, then I guess you need to read the book for it to impact you, and the book in general will probably be pretty boring for most people because it talks about how to make a TV series in the 60s.
tbob says: I would rather listen to Spaceman Spiff's Klingon jokes than read the book.
10-31-2005 05:08 PM
Wow:
6 pages of posts on a topic titled 'How'.![]()
I wonder what discussions with topic titles of who, what, when, where, and why would bring. Battlestar Galactica reminiscing, perchance![]()
11-01-2005 08:24 AM
tbob says: I would rather listen to Spaceman Spiff's Klingon jokes than read the book.
11-01-2005 09:22 AM
@Spaceman spif wrote:
"Get a life! You...when's the last time you went on a date??"
Spif,
I was actually wondering about you.. Who knows, maybe Barbarella is still roaming the Universe... 🙂
11-01-2005 09:36 AM
11-01-2005 09:46 AM
"At some point, are we gonna have the Star Wars vs. LOTR debate on here????"
How could you possibly have a debate between the greatest piece of fiction in the 20th century and a 3rd rate science fiction wanna be?![]()
11-01-2005 10:02 AM
"How could you possibly have a debate between the greatest piece of fiction in the 20th century..."
Okay, I'm gonna go out on a limb...and....just....say....it! I thought the books were BORING!! Good story, great characters, but criminy, it took f-o-r-e-v-e-r to get through the books!
11-01-2005 10:09 AM - edited 11-01-2005 10:09 AM
Message Edited by shoneill on 11-01-2005 05:10 PM