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Installing LabView 6.1 Runtime on Win 7 64 bit

Hi,

 

I have LabView 6.1 based program which I want to install and run in Windows 7 64bit. I tried to install LabView 6.1 Run time Engine. It looks like it starts loading then hang on for long time.

 

What is the issue here?

 

Regards

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Other than the fact that LabVIEW 6.1 is not supported on Windows 7?

 

Just a guess, mind you.

 

Search this forum. You will see a lot of posts about people trying to get earlier versions of LabVIEW installed on Windows 7. I'm not going to rehash the various suggestions, as I'm sure you are more than capable of doing a little search and reading the posts. Right?

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Hi Hants,

 

Welcome to the forums!  I thought a slightly more constructive answer might be helpful for you so you don't spend time trying something that probably can't work!

 

There are lots of KnowledgeBase (KB) articles on our website that contain information on these sorts of questions.  I don't know if perhaps you didn't come across it, but this KB answers your questions on OS compatibility in LabVIEW.

 

You can go to ni.com and use the search box to locate KBs, Tutorials, Community Example and Developer Zone articles.  Obviously, use the search bar here to search the forums as well.

 

The last poster suggested searching the forums for posts about getting LabVIEW 6.1 working on Windows 7, but unfortunately, as you are running on 64bit, I don't think it will work at all.  I have had other customers trying to get LabVIEW 7 and 8 running on Win7 64 in the past, and it turned out to not be possible, so they downgraded to XP.  If your code uses any toolkits or modules for LabVIEW 6.1, the likelihood of it running is pretty slim too.

 

You might also find this white paper tutorial useful to read through.

 

Is there a particular reason you need to use LabVIEW 6.1?

 

Hopefully that information might prove helpful.

 

Best Regards,

Oli
LabVIEW Student Ambassador
National Instruments UK
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For the record, any of the information you had provided could have been found from a simple search. It's quite obvious from the question that the poster didn't bother to search.

 

Oh, and just so we remain constructive, of course, you forgot one suggestion that is constantly mentioned in all of the questions from people asking about running older versions of LabVIEW on Windows 7, whether it's 32-bit or 64-bit (not that this actually matters here): XP Mode.

 

 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I actually want to install my Application which is developed in LabView 6.1. My program install and run on other Windows system but not in Win 7 64 bit.

 

I thought I should install LV Runtime 6.1 before installing the Application. And I realize there is some problem. I don't have intention run LV6.1 program itself. Though I want to know whether I can install LV 8.5 in Win 7 64 bit once I solved my first issue. 

 

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Fair point, I hadn't forgotten XP Mode, but simply chose not to suggest it as a solution at this point.  Not all versions of Windows 7 support XP Mode, so that isn't necessarily an option for the OP.

 

NI-DAQmx devices aren't supported in virtualised OSes like XP Mode, this is due to the nature of USB communication handling in virtualised OSes.  Typically, they are optimised for HMI devices or Mass storage, but not higher performance devices such as USB DAQ.  We don't know if the OPs application requires USB, another reason that XP Mode isn't necessarily a suitable option to suggest at this point.

 

Another noted issue with XP Mode is that it can brick certain USB devices for, as yet, unknown reasons.  This is not limited to NI Hardware specifically, but with USB devices in general that do not fall under the HMI or MS categories and is a problem that Microsoft are actively working on.  So rather than suggesting the use of XP Mode that could potentially cause problems with his hardware, if he is using any (which we don't know at this point), it is better to ask some more questions about the particular application and the OPs needs.

 

If the information from my last post was sufficient for the OP, then he/she needn't reply, if however, they require more information, then we can begin to explore other solutions such as XP Mode if it's appropriate.

 

When using older versions of LabVIEW, it is also a good idea to ascertain why/if an older version is required.  It is possible to open VIs from certain older LabVIEW versions in current versions, which I'm sure you are aware, so it might be that the OP isn't aware of this and might be under the impression that he must use the same version to work with his VIs.  Which isn't the case.  Hence my last question regarding why LabVIEW 6.1 is required.

 

For the sake of the post, this information is available here.  You can open LV 6.1 VIs in LV 2011.

 

I am completely aware that a simple search would have turned out those resources, that's exactly what I did to get the links to them.  However, not all LabVIEW users are aware that there are extra sources of information available by searching ni.com in addition to the forum search, so it could be helpful to point this out just in case.  Not all of the information I have sourced would necessarily be found by simply using the forum search bar, it might, but then again it might not.

 

Yes, I agree with you that there are other posts asking similar questions and Yes, I agree that in this instance searching for the issue at hand would probably have negated the need for this post to have been made, but whilst it is true that the OP might not have searched to see if he/she could resolve his/her issue, at least now he/she is aware of the resources that are available to him/her and can continue to be proficient and successful in the future.

 

hants1984: Having just read your last post, you should find the information you require in the above links.  The question on LabVIEW 8.5 in Windows 7 64 bit has come up in the past a lot on these forums, the official answer is no.  LabVIEW 8.5 is not supported in Win7 64, however, as discussed in the above post, XP Mode may be an appropriate solution for you.

Oli
LabVIEW Student Ambassador
National Instruments UK
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Unlike the folks at NI, I am perfectly willing to be brutally honest when people don't even bother to do even the barest minimum amount of effort on their part, expecting the answers to be handed to them on a silver platter. I make no apologies, nor do I need a lecture.

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Sorry if that came across as a lecture.  I mean no disrespect and I do agree that some effort aught to be shown. You've made your point.

Oli
LabVIEW Student Ambassador
National Instruments UK
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Thanks for all the comments, let's have some more details.

 

Myself:

I am an electronic engineer, attended LV Basic 1 & 2 at NI, Newbury, UK. We do not have any dedicated LV expert. I successfully modified big applications and created small programs but I must admit I am not an expert. We have LV 6.1 and 8.5. Little bit enthusiam in software, dealt with VB, Java, C, Access, SQL (not recent, 10 yrs before) but felt LV looks good but difficult to understand.

 

Program in question: 

 

1) Build in LV 6.1, don't run in LV 8.5 because new version 8.5 don't support some of 6.1 functions, ex Simple Error Handler, General Error Handler and others (company like NI should not allow this to happen). I am working on it to solve the "broken arrow", but being involved in other Electronic project not much time to spend.

 

2) The program use CAN-USB interface. PC -> CAN-USB API -> USB driver -> CAN USB interface Hardware -> DUT (Product (includes CAN Interface IC, uController etc)).

 

My points:

 

1) CAN-USB-PC communication is not issue as I installed latest driver and it talks with DUT using interfaces like CANalyzer.

 

3) API: I installed latest API which worked on XP pcs. And the CAN-USB hardware vendor supply the same API for 32 bit and 64 bit.

 

4) Win 7 64bit (XP mode): I don't know much about Win 7, we still stayed with XP. But my customer changed everything in Win 7 (64bit), so the requirements came in. XP mode is not an option as I shall deliver solution, not way-round it.

 

5) The software is complex to complete rebuild. We don't want complete rebuild due to time and investment required. Could not convince company to buy LV 2011 yet.

 

6) I started looking at previous post, thanks for the link, being not regular I need this direction. But so far none have the similar issue.

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hants1984 wrote:

1) Build in LV 6.1, don't run in LV 8.5 because new version 8.5 don't support some of 6.1 functions, ex Simple Error Handler, General Error Handler and others (company like NI should not allow this to happen). I am working on it to solve the "broken arrow", but being involved in other Electronic project not much time to spend.


That is simply not true. Those functions have not been removed from any version of LabVIEW. It sounds to me like you were linking to either customized versions, or the orginals were copied into a separate library.

 

 

Frankly, I don't know what it is you want from the community or from NI. LabVIEW 6.1 is ancient and obsolete many times over. There is no way NI is going to spend the resources to make it, and the hardware drivers that were used at that time, to be compatible with Windows 7, let alone 64-bit. It's simply not practical. Your company will either have to decide to tell the customer to either stick with XP, or they will need to upgrade. I'm sorry to tell you that bluntly, but that's the state of the universe.

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