Upgrading problems from Labview 8.5.1 to 8.6

[ttzvetkov]

Hi ,

I have experienced serious problems upgrading from Labview 8.5.1 professional to 8.6 and Vision Development system 8.5 to 8.6. 

1. Working with projects that have a vi with IMAQ WindZoom from Vision 8.5 when the vi is open for the first time it opens. However when saved under 8.6 the next attempt to open will crash Labview and 

with a short message. The unexpected closers stopped only when I have replaced  IMAQ WindZoom with IMAQ WindZoom 2 and relinked the Vision functions with the new ones including the display controls and indicators.

Now the system does not crash but I still have warning of missing files in  Dependencies/vi.lib/NI_vision_Development_module.lvlib. It looks for files in Preallocated.llb. This library does not exist and most likely is not a real library but a 

reference to VI's that are reentrant. I don't now but the problem is there.

2. After working around with vision incompatibilities I have tried to create installer for my application. Well the installer does not work even on the computer where my LabView Professional is installed. Tried on several others with the same "success" . It gives me error 2705. Attached is the message;

 I have LV8.6 Vision 8.6 installed on XP SP3 Proffesional.

Thank you for any input.

Tochko

[DjDaveNI]

Hello ttzvetkov,

First let’s tackle error -2705 from the MSI installer. The KnowledgeBase article here details why this error occurs and how to eliminate it. Are you working on a non-English operating system with Visual Studio .NET?

Regarding the WindZoom LabVIEW crash issue, could you post a screenshot of the error message you see? Or even just the verbatim text that appears after the crash? This will help us forum users figure out what is going on.

Regarding the Preallocated.llb issue: do you have a preallocated.llb file at :\Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 8.6\vi.lib\vision\Preallocated.llb? This should have installed as part of the Vision Development Module (VDM) for LabVIEW 8.6. If this llb file does not appear on your hard disk, please repair the installation of VDM in Windows in Add/Remove Programs by selecting “National Instruments Software” then change/remove. Insert your VDM 8.6 disc, and select the “Repair” option.

Post back if you have any trouble with these steps. I hope this helps 🙂

[ttzvetkov]

Hi Dave,

I will look into the recommended Knowledge Base. However I will probably not have time to try Investigate this part of the problems. I have found that if I uninstall ALL NI software from my computer and have clear Labview 8.6; Vision 8.6

builds new installation that installs clear on every machine I have tried. I this seems reproducible. However Installing again 8.2 8.5 for the sake finding the problem takes too much time. 

Back to the crash associated with WindZoom. This is reproducible problem. Attached are tree files associated with that crash. One is screen shot . The other two are dumped in TMP folder. Again, If one replaces WindZoom and other Vision

VI's with the current ones from the vision lib prior saving the main application, then everything is working fine. And this is not LV 8.6 related, but Vision 8.6. I have tried LV 8.5 with Vision 8.6 installed and does the same.

As for the \Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 8.6\vi.lib\vision\Preallocated.llb. I can't make my distribution to install that library file. Just isn't there. I have reinstalled the Vision 8.6 several times with the same result. Repair does not help. Currently for me personally is more important to solve this last problem. The other two have solution - clean installation and vision library files replacement in the application. It's not pretty, but works :-).

 Thank you,

Best,

Tochko

[ttzvetkov]

One more thing regarding the first part. I do not have Visual studio .NET installed on any of the machines.

And in the first paragraph I ment clean LV/Vision 8.6 installations

Tochko

[ttzvetkov]

Additional development for \Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 8.6\vi.lib\vision\Preallocated.llb issue. There is one more llb file missing in Vision library. That is :

\Program Files\National Instruments\LabVIEW 8.6\vi.lib\vision\Timed Environment.llb. It has the same warning. Both libraries are closely related to Real Time module, but I don't know if they

are included in my Vision Development Distribution. Hope this helps finding the problem.

Tochko

[Michelle_N]

Tochko,

Let's try having you install an evaluation version of LabVIEW Real-Time Module and see if those LLBs get installed and will support your VI/application.

Does this fix this one issue?

[ttzvetkov]

Michelle,

The reality is that I do not need real time LLBs or the VIs that are reported missing. They are just reported missing when any vission VI is used in Labview Project. I might install the Real-Time Module

if this could help finding the solution for this warning, but i don't have any use for this module right now. My initial intent for this posting was to find way to configure Labview not to search for something that is not in my

original package and which I have no intend to use it. 

Tochko

[Michelle_N]

I strongly suggest you try installing this evaluation version of Real Time. You can uninstall it if this does not solve your issue. I have seen something similar to this before and I believe the Vision Dev Module may be missing some supporting files, or at least it 'thinks' it's missing some supporting files. If you try this it will give us more insite to your issue.

[ttzvetkov]

Hi Michelle,

Well I have installed Real-Time and there is no solution. Attached is a snapshot of my project DEPENDENCIES  . Hope this will help.

 Tochko

[Michelle_N]

I can email you these two LLBs if you post an email address.