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[Pnt]

The first written language was developed in Greece long before 5000 BC. "GRAMMIKI A"

I don't know how it is called in English.

But it was not an alphabetic language. (like cuneiform)

The first alphabet with the form we now know, in all the common languages, was the one i wrote.

alphabet = the first two letters in Greek alphabet "ALPHA", "BETA"

[TWGomez]

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Pnt wrote:

The first written language was developed in Greece long before 5000 BC. "GRAMMIKI A"

I don't know how it is called in English.

But it was not an alphabetic language. (like cuneiform)

The first alphabet with the form we now know, in all the common languages, was the one i wrote.

alphabet = the first two letters in Greek alphabet "ALPHA", "BETA"

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It is called "Linear A" and/or "Linear B", dating from 8th or 9th century BC.

They found caveman "writing" before that though...

Yeah Greek is the ancestor of MOST common alphabetic languages, but since they got their ideas from the Egyptians (and their semetic workers) Greek really only modified and popularized the current "Alpha Beta" form (thanks to the Greeks/Romans ruling the world for sevaral hundred years) 😄

[Pnt]

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TWGomez wrote:

It is called "Linear A" and/or "Linear B", dating from 8th or 9th century BC.

True !

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TWGomez wrote:

 but since they got their ideas from the Egyptians (and their semetic workers) Greek really only modified and popularized the current "Alpha Beta" form (thanks to the Greeks/Romans ruling the world for sevaral hundred years)

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Not True. The path was "Linear A" >> "Linear B" >> "First alphabet" (all in Greece)

The "hieroglyphs" was at the same time with "Linear A", from the Egyptians , but it did not developed to an alphabet, (only after the Greek one)  

[RavensFan]

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[TWGomez]

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Pnt wrote:

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TWGomez wrote:

 but since they got their ideas from the Egyptians (and their semetic workers) Greek really only modified and popularized the current "Alpha Beta" form (thanks to the Greeks/Romans ruling the world for sevaral hundred years)

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Not True. The path was "Linear A" >> "Linear B" >> "First alphabet" (all in Greece)

The "hieroglyphs" was at the same time with "Linear A", from the Egyptians , but it did not developed to an alphabet, (only after the Greek one)  

Yes it did...Alphabets began in ancient Egypt...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_alphabet

Greeks just used thier ideas, modified it/improved it, then made it popular (by forcing the people they conquered to use it).

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Message Edited by TWGomez on 05-07-2008 09:17 AM

[Pnt]

TWGomez wrote:

          You must Greek since you think they made the world

NEVER said that. Nice link. Good to know what it is been written.

Sometimes a good old book, counts more than millions of bytes.

That stands for everythink. Not only the discussion we do.

Yes i am from Greece, and i had the same opinion with you.

But after a lot of reading.......

[TWGomez]

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Pnt wrote:

TWGomez wrote:

          You must Greek since you think they made the world

NEVER said that. Nice link. Good to know what it is been written.

Sometimes a good old book, counts more than millions of bytes.

That stands for everythink. Not only the discussion we do.

Yes i am from Greece, and i had the same opinion with you.

But after a lot of reading.......

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LOL, I edited that line out before you posted your reply 😄

I meant it to be Jovial, but I wasn't sure it came across that way...so I took it out, hope I didn't offend 😄

Not sure what "Sometimes a good old book, counts more than millions of bytes" means...

or  "and i had the same opinion with you.

But after a lot of reading......."

[Pnt]

No offense at all... we just talking....

"Sometimes a good old book, counts more than millions of bytes. "

What i mean is that many times the online encyclopedias have errors. For many thinks.

They have a huge amount of information, which a book can not have. Although a book is the result of many years work, for good authors, and they are more reliable. Sometimes is the result of their whole life effort.

Note the "good authors", which is very hard to find in nowadays. Of course, I don't mean in science books.

As for  "i had the same opinion with you": when i was younger i had been tought that "Alphabets began in ancient Egypt"

[TWGomez]

Gotchya 😉

Well books have errors too, I find more often than encyclopedias, especially wikipedia...Books often inject personal opinion and biases of the writter and can not be "actively" disputed in the context of what was published. The great thing about wikipedia is that those people that have dissenting opinions can post their references in arguement over what was posted, thus making it a level field for all opinions/resources and references. So I tend to beleive wikipedia 😄 PLUS Wikipedia (and enclopedias in general) get their information from other books...Note the references section of the page I linked...the information was gathered from about 16 different books...

None of it seems too hard to beleive to me 😄

😉 The hard thing about history is that it's always changing 😉

[Pnt]

TWGomez wrote:
The hard thing about history is that it's always changing

True

TWGomez wrote:

books have errors too

the information was gathered from about 16 different books

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That is why i said "good authors". People who have their lifes deticated in history

There are many Labview programmers, but only few who really knows what they are doing, when things go difficult.

The same stands for everyrthing. There many books, only a few good authors. Half the job is to find them... the other half to read them..

Specialy history books, many times are written to serve other perposes... not history itself.

I have done a really big search, and i have many books in my library.

I am not trying to persuade you, that is really big discussion... just keep an open mind... 

Message Edited by Pnt on 05-08-2008 08:37 AM