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USB-6229 BNC Single-channel Failures?

We've recently constructed two identical test rigs around USB-6229 BNC units, using most of the available analog I/O channels on them, and a few digital I/O channels.  During the commissioning process on the first unit, one of the analog input channels (AI20, specifically) produced very inaccurate data.  All other channels worked properly, and we had a couple of spares, so we sort of assumed we'd somehow damaged that channel with an overvoltage signal and just avoided it.

 

However, during commissioning of the second unity we found one of its AO channels (AO1) was stuck outputting -10V (-10.21V, more precisely), no matter what we did--power cycling the device, leaving it off for a while, running reset and hardware tests in MAX, setting a specific value directly to that output via MAX, writing to it via LabVIEW I/O vis.  The other three AO channels are fine, and again we have an extra, but this time we are quite certain that that channel was never shorted, supplied with a voltage as an input, or otherwise abused.

 

This experience has soured us on the otherwise quite nice USB BNC multifunction units, so I'm wondering if this is behavior anyone else has seen and/or if there are any troubleshooting steps we should be trying to revive these apparently dead channels.

 

To note, the systems in question are only reading relatively low-voltage signals (nothing over 8V), only outputting voltage to appropriate high-impedance devices, and are supplied by a high-quality, regulated 24V power supply that checks good.  Temperature and humidity ranges have always been acceptable, and anti-static measures have been observed, though static is usually a non-issue in this area due to the climate.

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Hello Mako,

 

I can assure you that I have never seen such behavior, and that there is nothing documented here at NI dealing with recurring issues involving the USB-6229.  Unfortunately, there is no real easy way of trying to figure out the source of these problems.  I would be curious to see if any other customers have experienced any other problems similar to this.  In the meantime, please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

 

Regards,

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I'd be interested in seeing if/how this problem has been resolved.  We have a nearly identical problem with a USB-6221.  A few weeks ago, we had an AI channel stop working properly.  We never resolved the problem, but proceeded as we had lots of extra channels.  Today, both analog output channels stopped working in between tests.  They are now both stuck at about -8 volts...  As with Mako's post, we are quite certain that neither channels (in fact, only one has been used) were shorted or abused in any manner.
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We're having the same problem with our 6221.  The Analog outputs are pegged at ~-8 and ~-9V and do not respond to any commands from MAX even after resetting the device and restarting the computer.  
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Garobe/jmansell -

 

     There are so many factors that go into figuring out why channels malfunction.  I can reassure you that there still has not been a repeatable issue with our 622X family of cards.  If you are interested in getting the card diagnosed, please feel free to call National Instruments Applications Engineering at 1-866-ASK-MYNI (275-6964).  We can help troubleshoot the card and initiate a repair, if need be.  This is the best course of action to figure out what might be wrong.

 

     Best of luck with your applications, and we look forward to hearing from you if you call in!

Gary P.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments
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To follow up, we never did pin down any cause or solution to this, though we haven't lost any additional channels thus far. It could just be bad luck, but while I don't doubt that NI hasn't found any repeatable problem with this hardware range, it does seem that these units are a little on the fragile side.

 

It's probably a very small percentage of these units that are having problems, but up to this point I've never seen a piece of NI hardware fail due to anything other than abuse, personally, and we have some ancient ISA MIO cards that have been in continuous use in harsh environments since the 90s.

 

I'm thinking next time I'm going to spec CompactDAQ hardware for similar applications--even if the failures are covered under warranty, it's a lot easier to replace a cDAQ module in-situ thanks to the quick-connect terminal block than dealing with all the screw terminals and two dozen BNC connectors on one of these units.  It'd be even worse if it wasn't the BNC version.

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