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Can anyone solve this Phase Locked Loop puzzle?

I created a Phase Locked Loop circuit using Multisim10.0.   It uses the Multisim clock oscillator, and the circuit appears to work great.

However, I just discovered that if I use the same parts that I used to create the Phase Locked Loop circuit in an oscillator circuit added to the same schematic, the Phase Locked Loop circuit doesn't work any more, while the new oscillator circuit pumps out a frequency that is way off.  4+MHz is no where near 1kHz, the design frequency.

What happened?   The evidence says my newly-added oscillator brings in something that kills a previously working circuit that uses the same old parts.   Every part used was taken from the previously working circuit, aside from the variable resistor values.  How did the Multisim rules change from 10.0 to 10.1?  What am I missing here?

Did the Phase Locked Loop circuit really work to begin with?  Which circuit is the broken one?

As I see things, in order to solve this puzzle, I need to come up with a factor that involves both circuits.  Some factor is going to kill both simultaneously.

Note what I'm saying here.  (At least when I ran them this was the case.)  Delete just the oscillator circuit, and run the circuit that remains.  It works.  Undo the deletion.  The oscillator reappears where it was, and the previously working circuit stops working.  There's something in that oscillator circuit that kills.  It's like switching on and off a light bulb.




Message Edited by Euler's Identity on 08-02-2008 12:10 AM
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Odd...

I just uploaded circuits to the forum, but now they have a "1" on the end of their filename??  They didn't say "1" before and now they do. 

Where did the "1"s come from?  Am I missing something? 


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This is another test.

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Why did I get a "1" after the one upload but not with the other?

Ok, one more time...
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Ok, how about... 
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You knew this was coming.
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By that response....
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Now this is all about Multisim.  Seriously, this is the logic of getting Multisim to work.
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Ah hey why not?

After all, I still can't predict what the next filenames I uplaod are going to look like, not yet at least.

However, at this point, it is safe to say it won't be what I uploaded.

[drum roll]
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