07-19-2013 12:57 PM
I recently started running UB12 on a W7 Pro laptop, after using UB 2001 and XP (!) for many years. I'm working with a project where the bottom copper layer is a ground plane. Most (but not all) of the components are SMT on the top copper layer, and the ground plane connection is through a short trace and a via. When I place a part and connect it, all is well (i.e.. the thermal relief is created at the via on the correct layer), but I started noticing that while editing in other areas of the board, often I would notice that ALL of my thermal reliefs had disappeared, both SMT and thru-hole, and the display showed a rat's nest of all the ground traces. Refreshing the view did not help. I found out accidentally that if I brought up the netlist editor, and did NOTHING but select the ground net (to which the bottom copper layer was connected) then clicked "OK", all my thermal reliefs re-appeared. This behavior is obviously annoying (although if I accidentally forgot while doing Gerber export, it could be devastating!) and I'd like to know if there is a setting or something that would prevent this behavior. Anticipating the question, I am not sure what specific function preceded this behavior, as I typically was moving components around, editing traces, etc. and often did not notice the missing thermal reliefs until some time had gone by. I just tried to do some editing and force the situation, and was unable to find the "magic" combination.
07-22-2013 12:04 PM
I was able to see the phenomenon today - I moved a trace and via together, and saw that all my ground plane thermal reliefs had disappeared. What's up with that? The particular trace is NOT connected to ground net.
07-22-2013 02:40 PM
NevadaDave,
I believe this is a refresh phenonmenon happening with the real time DRC. I have checked with R&D but the actual VIAs and thermal relief connections are there. I believe this visual behavior started in v11 when there were some issues fixed with DRC (I believe with copper areas). So in v11/v12, copper areas and the way DRC is done on copper areas was changed.
I've confirmed with R&D in the past that whenever you output Gerber or CAD output data, the physical connections are there.
I believe if you turn off the real time DRC this behavior will not be as visually distracting (although in my opinion the real time DRC check is nice). I'll see if R&D can provide a feature/fix request to improve the visual feedback that you get (without visuall removing/resetting the thermal relief connections).
- Pat Noonan
07-22-2013 03:15 PM
Pat,
Thanks for the reply. I'll check more closely into what is going on. As long as I know that the Gerber files will be OK, and that I can "regenerate" the thermal reliefs as necessary, I'll wait for the patch to fix it.
07-22-2013 03:33 PM
NevadaDave,
Thanks - I've sent this post to our R&D for review. Definitely an inconvenience visually, but I believe technically Gerber and all other fab files are fine.
- Pat