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UB 12.0.1 Bug? Renumbering Tool Issue

Hi Folks,

 

I got this little 2x4 header footprint I just made using the Part Wizard.  I know my header symbols in MS aren't numbered as shown below, so I attempt to use the Renumbering Tool.

 

Renumbering Tool SNAFU 01.JPG


 

I checked the header symbol that I want to use in MS, and it starts with pin 1 in the lower left and pin 2 is in the upper left, and so on.  On the Renumber Pins dialog, I set the start corner to Lower left, and the direction to Vertical.  The image below shows this setting and its results.  I'm not familiar with this fashion of pin numbering.

 

Renumbering Tool SNAFU 02.JPG


I tried changing the direction to horizontal, which gave me the pin numbering arrangement I wanted (shown below), but I don't see how a user should expect this direction to be Horizontal.

 

 

Renumbering Tool SNAFU 03.JPG

 

 

Regards,

Who
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Hi,

 

I just tried this and it seems to change it as expected when I select Vertical and Lower left. It gave me the result you are showing in the end. My guess is that the part was rotated maybe and that could have caused this.

 

I tried this with both the part wizard and with just creating a part from Database manager and it seems to be correct.

 

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Tayyab R,
National Instruments.
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Hi,

I'm a little disappointed in your response, since you represent the product.  The product has failed to provide the expected results.  To help improve your product, not only have I recreated the same problem several times in the course of documenting it for you, but I have documented it for you, with images that clearly indicate that it did something wrong.  I wish your response was more than just taking a guess at the reasons it failed. If you suspect that the part being rotated is the cause, then why don't you try rotating a part and let me know something factual about the failure I've found?  Or, perhaps you could invite more details from me, since you were unable to recreate the problem at your end?  That would make it appear like you're much more interested in solving the problem.

As a matter of fact, the part's rotation was as the Part Wizard placed it in the design space.  I wouldn't know if the Part Wizard is likely to place a part rotated in the design space, but I suspect not.  If the renumbering tool isn't capable of performing correctly on a rotated part, that would seem to be a defect that needs attention (at least a pop-up warning), in addition to the defect that I found.

Other possible contributing factors?

I had MS running with fairly large design displayed.  UB had a 4-design project open with the design that was running in MS transfered to one of the designs open in UB.  With all that going on, I used the part wizard to create seveal 1.27mm pitch connectors, mostly single-row and a few dual-row.  On the dual-row parts, I tried to use the renumbering tool to make the pin order match the MS symbols for generic headers of the same size, such as HDR2x8 and so forth.    

Actually, just now, I found what causes this problem.  I ran the Part Wizard and created an 8-pin dip package leaving all the settings as default and simply just clicked through from one step to the next, all the way to the end.  Then, with the part appearing in the design space, I turned on the renumbering tool, selected lower left as the starting point and horizontal as the renumbering method, and it worked as expected.  (I figure you did something similar when you tried to re-create the problem).  I then went back and created a part that started out as a dip part, but as I went through the steps, I set the settings so the part would turn out like the connector I wanted when I ran into the problem before.  Sure enough, the renumbering tool gave me the problem I experienced again.

So, looks like the renumbering tool can't handle renumbering the pins of every part turned out by the Part Wizard.

The attached file has a dip part and a part like the connector I created that causes the renumbering tool to fail.  Both parts were generated by the Part Wizard.  The dip part is with all of the settings left as default.  The connector part is with all of the settings necessary to get a connector part, (except pin numbering for a connector.  for some reason this option isn't available in the Part Wizard).  If you open the file and select a part, and turn on in-place-part-edit, you can use the renumbering tool to renumber the pins of the part.  Notice how the renumbering tool works for the default dip part just fine, and fails for the custom connector.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Who
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Thanks for the clearification. I will report the issue.

Regards,

Tayyab R,
National Instruments.
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