10-02-2014 10:21 AM - edited 10-02-2014 10:35 AM
@Romsky wrote:
Frankly, you are being a bully and it is not appreciated here in NI forums.
Name calling is not appreciated in the forum, and the word bully has strong negative connotations. Bullying is not politically correct in current society, so don't accuse anyone of bullying without hard proof.
Romsky wrote:Opinions do matter but I do not appreciate you comment about my post being ramblings.
The word rambling provides a concise description of my honest opinion on your op-ed piece. It is a very clearly defined word and just describes what I thought in a single word. It is not negative or positive, just factual.
Your piece was (1) lenghty, (2) confused, and (3) inconsequential in my honest opinion.
Romsky wrote:Putting emoticons in your post does not make it ok.
Emoticons can express the intent of a sentence to avoid misunderstandings such as this. They represent metadata (similar to facial expressions in direct conversations) that are important to the message, but cannot be put in print. If you have trouble understanding emoticons, it might be part of the reason why you prefer text programming and have problems with graphical representations in general. Not that there is anything wrong with that. People differ!
Romsky wrote:I think you took the car anlogy too far, all cars take you to where you want to go in the end, in what "vehicle" and "how" you operate them it is the point.
I was just pointing out the pitfalls of your flawed analogies. I could say that text programming is like radio (1D, sequential, and monochome) and LabVIEW is like TV (2D, colorful, etc.).
In terms of raw bitrate that can be processed by the human subject, TV is way superior because of the raw processing capabilities of the visual cortex to recognize shapes and spacial relationships. OTOH, both suck if the programming is bad. (pun intended!) 😄
Romsky wrote:I read your ideas and I see that your are totally baised towards LabVIEW. My post was a much less biased, even though I made it clear to my preference, I still claimed that either one is good.
Don't get me wrong. I've been programming in text forever, starting with Fortran VI on punchcards. And Yes, my opinion is that graphical programming is superior and I list some of the reasons why I think that. So yes, it is biased. I never said that I am unbiased on this topic. Graphical programming is much better geared to the way my brain works. This might not apply to other programmers. However, I am also not alone. Have a look at SpaceX or CERN or many others.
Romsky wrote:This is not the place for aguments, it is for respectful discussions. Please contact me at romsk22@gmail.com I would be happy to discuss this with you further.
I think I was being very respectful, and since this is the breakpoint forum I argue that it IS a place for arguments. No argument about that! 😄
As another offtopic tangent, I would strongly suggest you ask the moderator to edit out your e-mail address. The internet is crawling with bots (and even hired real humans in ultra-low wage countries) that harvest e-mail addresses for lists to be sold to spammers.
10-02-2014 10:49 AM
Let us drop this whole thread that started with the Left/Right side and brain and start again, we have gone way off topic.
10-02-2014 11:08 AM
@Romsky wrote:
Let us drop this whole thread that started with the Left/Right side and brain and start again, we have gone way off topic.
This is an eight year old thread with 140+ messages on pretty much exactly this topic. I doubt you can control its natural evolution and I don't think we should try to steer it. 😄
10-02-2014 12:11 PM
@altenbach wrote:
This is an eight year old thread with 140+ messages on pretty much exactly this topic. I doubt you can control its natural evolution and I don't think we should try to steer it. 😄
Now the important thing to remember during this discussion is I had an onion in my belt, which was the style at the time.
Seriously though I love BreakPoint for the almost unmoderated level of conversations that takes place. Nothing is off topic and stream of stream of consciousness can take place. Only here and the LAVA Lounge do I enjoy this level of freedom. I admit it does annoy me when I discover an interesting thread that goes on for hundreds of replies and to fully appreciate the thread you really do have to read the whole thing. Like this thread for instance, I wasn't really aware of it until recently and when I get some time I'll read through it.
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10-02-2014 12:23 PM
@Hooovahh wrote:
This is the Breakpoint. Serious posts are not allowed.
If you are going to quote me, you should at least give that post a Kudo...that's the polilte thing to do.
10-02-2014 12:25 PM
@crossrulz wrote:
If you are going to quote me, you should at least give that post a Kudo...that's the polilte thing to do.
My bad, to go a step further I kudoed that post, and this one. Put those kudos in your retirement fund.
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10-02-2014 12:27 PM
Hooovahh,
An onion on the belt, from "The Simpsons", too funny!
All,
I didn't mean to drop the whole LabVIEW vs. CVI thread, just from the point where I made my first post (which stirred up the hornets nest). Nothing has come from this as it has become more of an argument of what each us have said rather than discussing the real topic.
So, do we all agree to drop this and wait for the next post that starts with new thoughts?
10-02-2014 12:34 PM
LabVIEW (LV) vs. LabWindows/CVI (LW)
The choice is clear:
LW is text based and may be considered antiquated in the 21st century.
LV is graphic based and is the future of programming.
10-02-2014 12:39 PM - edited 10-02-2014 12:40 PM
@Romsky wrote:
LabVIEW (LV) vs. LabWindows/CVI (LW)
LW is text based and may be considered antiquated in the 21st century.
LV is graphic based and is the future of programming.
Listen I want to jump on the LV band wagon, I probably already have. But to say that anything is the future of anything is difficult, no one can predict what will happen. Is LV the future of programming? Is graphical programming the future of programming? I'd sure like to think so, but it is too early to say. I think all I can say for sure is CVI is for text based programming, LabVIEW is for graphical programming. The strengths of each can highly depend on the skills of the programmer. Personally I've seen amazing things from skilled LabVIEW programmers, and I haven't seen much of anything from CVI programmers. Not because they are bad but because I've never had a dialog about CVI with any CVI experts.
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10-02-2014 12:45 PM
From what Altenbach tells me (and his webpage), graphical is the way to go for the future.
So I am convinced, LabVIEW is the only way to go.
Talk to Altenbach, I am sure he will agree with me.