Random Posts (An alternate to side discussions)

[Ray.R]

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@Ben wrote:

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We develop LV code using mice and keyboards.

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You might want to explain that in this context, a "mice" or "mouse" is a hand-held device which sits on the desk and is craddled within the palm of our hand.  That it has 2 or 3 buttons (some have wheels) and it is called a mouse because the wire that connects it to the PC makes it look like a mouse.  It is also approx the size of a large mouse.

I'd hate the future wire-workers to think we were cruel by actually drawing code using live (or dead) mice.

[JW-JnJ]

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@Ray.R wrote:

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@Ben wrote:

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We develop LV code using mice and keyboards.

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You might want to explain that in this context, a "mice" or "mouse" is a hand-held device which sits on the desk and is craddled within the palm of our hand.  That it has 2 or 3 buttons (some have wheels) and it is called a mouse because the wire that connects it to the PC makes it look like a mouse.  It is also approx the size of a large mouse.

I'd hate the future wire-workers to think we were cruel by actually drawing code using live (or dead) mice.

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LabVIEW programmers aren't that cruel. We use wires to control the mouse brains and make them program for us. (Personally, I use butterflies)

All I want to know is, will LabVIEW 2110 have a neural interface that converts concepts in my brain to a program? My brain feels hindered by the conversion to the physical world.

[GregFreeman]

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@crossrulz wrote:

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@Ray.R wrote:

I have to finally admit that Windoze 7 is not that bad.  To the point that it has me wondering if I should investigate Windows 8.

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From what I've heard, Windows 8 is a bust so far.  What do you expect when you put a tablet OS on a desktop?

My experience with Windows 7 has been really good.  I actually like it more than XP.

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At the beginning of my Windows 7 transition, I hated it. But, this hate was really just "how do I do this now" and once I figured it out, it wasn't a big deal and I, too, like it more than XP. While I was visiting my Grandma we got her a new computer and it had windows 8. It was awful. There is this stupid dashboard with these huge icons. In order to shut down you have to mouse over to the right side and hold it there, which pops out a menu. Then you go to SETTINGs?!!?! (WHAT?!) which gives you a power menu and from that you can choose shutdown restart etc. The desktop doesn't show up by default, you have to select it from the stupdi dashboard. There is no start menu anymore. You can get something kind of similar if you go to the lower left corner and right click. All-in-all, it wasn't the immediate frustration like I had with Windows 7, but was far far worse. Ok, rants over.

[Thoric]

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@for(imstuck) wrote:

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@crossrulz wrote:

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@Ray.R wrote:

I have to finally admit that Windoze 7 is not that bad.  To the point that it has me wondering if I should investigate Windows 8.

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From what I've heard, Windows 8 is a bust so far.  What do you expect when you put a tablet OS on a desktop?

My experience with Windows 7 has been really good.  I actually like it more than XP.

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At the beginning of my Windows 7 transition, I hated it. But, this hate was really just "how do I do this now" and once I figured it out, it wasn't a big deal and I, too, like it more than XP. While I was visiting my Grandma we got her a new computer and it had windows 8. It was awful. There is this stupid dashboard with these huge icons. In order to shut down you have to mouse over to the right side and hold it there, which pops out a menu. Then you go to SETTINGs?!!?! (WHAT?!) which gives you a power menu and from that you can choose shutdown restart etc. The desktop doesn't show up by default, you have to select it from the stupdi dashboard. There is no start menu anymore. You can get something kind of similar if you go to the lower left corner and right click. All-in-all, it wasn't the immediate frustration like I had with Windows 7, but was far far worse. Ok, rants over.

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My colleague is a Windows fanatic, he got Windows 8 through MSDN as soon as it was released and installed it over his Win7 Pro on his business laptop. He's been plagued with issues, non-running software, terrible driver incompatibilities, and worst of all serious crashes (where everything stops responding, including the mouse pointer, such that the only option is to pull the power). I'm very put off by Microsoft's approach to their latest OS release, I think it is a mistake to focus so hard on it being tablet-friendly. There are still many users who don't care for such interfaces, and would prefer to believe that they were still developing primarily for a traditional keyboard/mouse interface. I know from my perspective this is essential, so I think I'll be sticking with Win7 for a long while.

BTW, I'm a WinXP man. That's the best OS I've ever used. I only have Win7 today out of enforcement.

[Jeffrey_Zola]

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@JW-L3CE wrote:

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@Ray.R wrote:

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@Ben wrote:

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We develop LV code using mice and keyboards.

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You might want to explain that in this context, a "mice" or "mouse" is a hand-held device which sits on the desk and is craddled within the palm of our hand.  That it has 2 or 3 buttons (some have wheels) and it is called a mouse because the wire that connects it to the PC makes it look like a mouse.  It is also approx the size of a large mouse.

I'd hate the future wire-workers to think we were cruel by actually drawing code using live (or dead) mice.

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LabVIEW programmers aren't that cruel. We use wires to control the mouse brains and make them program for us. (Personally, I use butterflies)

All I want to know is, will LabVIEW 2110 have a neural interface that converts concepts in my brain to a program? My brain feels hindered by the conversion to the physical world.

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Another important addition:  Make sure you describe the proper usage of the mouse, lest some idiot try to pick it up and talk into it!

[altenbach]

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@Jeffrey_Zola wrote:

Another important addition:  Make sure you describe the proper usage of the mouse, lest some idiot try to pick it up and talk into it!

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Don't laugh. Many years ago we had a service tech who actually held the mouse against the CRT in a specific location and frantically clicked the button when instructed to click on a field. I am not sure how long he lasted in that job....

[Jeffrey_Zola]

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@altenbach wrote:

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@Jeffrey_Zola wrote:

Another important addition:  Make sure you describe the proper usage of the mouse, lest some idiot try to pick it up and talk into it!

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Don't laugh. Many years ago we had a service tech who actually held the mouse against the CRT in a specific location and frantically clicked the button when instructed to click on a field. I am not sure how long he lasted in that job....

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Holy Crap. Am I dating myself?!?

[AnalogKid2DigitalMan]

Yes you are Jeffrey, then again, so am I 🙂

-AK2DM

[JÞB]

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@altenbach wrote:

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@Jeffrey_Zola wrote:

Another important addition:  Make sure you describe the proper usage of the mouse, lest some idiot try to pick it up and talk into it!

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Don't laugh. Many years ago we had a service tech who actually held the mouse against the CRT in a specific location and frantically clicked the button when instructed to click on a field. I am not sure how long he lasted in that job....

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OK I've got to relate this...  In the Twin Cities we have a popular radio personality, Joe Soucheray, with a long time talk radio show.  Several years ago he was relating a story out of LaCrosse Wisconsin where some practical joker had removed all of the "mouse balls" from the universities "Lab".  It was apparent that he was not considering that the "Lab" was a "computer Lab" and no rodents had been neutered.

OTOH perhaps explaning the vairiouse type of mouses (track ball, optical, bluetooth (No Tails)..... might just be important for the furure engineer to understand what we had to work with in this age!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ben]

I was a Field Engineer when mice where new technology.

I recieved a copy of this message (cut-n-pasted from here) in my mail box (no e-mail did not exist as we know it back then).

"

Mouse balls are now available as FRU (field replacement units) therefore, if a mouse fails to operate or should it perform erratically, it may need a ball replacement.

Because of the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of mouse balls should only be attempted by properly trained personnel. Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the underside of the mouse.
Domestic balls will be larger and harder than foreign balls. 

Ball removal procedures differ depending upon the manufacturer of the mouse. Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop off method.
Domestic balls are replaced by using the twist off method.
Mouse balls are not usually static sensitive. However, excessive handling can result in sudden discharge.
Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse may be used immediately. It is recommended that each engineer have a pair of spare balls for maintaining optimum customer satisfaction.
Any customer missing his balls should suspect local personnel of removing these necessary items.

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Ben