Rube Goldberg Code

[Ray.R]

Well said Ben.

I need to take some time and build my own palette.  They moved things around as well.  I "memorized" how to get to the functions and I find myself in the wrong palettes.

Plus, it seems that I have a setting that is stuck on "Express VI's" 😠  I de-select them, but they keep coming back.  Maybe we need a nugget on how to customize the palette, cause I feel like a total tard with them.. 

An eye infection in the right eye doesn't help either... Since my palettes are typically placed on the right side of the screen... (no peripheral vision) 😞

[Ben]

"Maybe we need a nugget on how to customize the palette, cause I feel like a total tard with them..  "

I relate to that. It usually happens the week after NI releases a new version and I find myslef in a semi-cirlce of suits-n-ties trying to demonstrate that I know LV.

I never custmize the palettes because it would only set me up for disaster. Ever since the day of Unix system 4 I have forced myself to do it the hard way (using "Edlin" instead of "VI") just because I could count on the default stuff being there.

I just don't understand why something as basic as the For Loop should be buried!

It seems that I use the For loop more often that I use the While loop so why I have to go digging for something so fundemental to coding .... go figure.

Sorry about the eye thing. Vision, short of being able to think through a code solution, is the only physical ability that is required for LV.

Ben

[RavensFan]

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Ben wrote:

"If somebody steals all your FOR loops, ...."

In LV 8.5 they have not stolen them but they are buried rather deep requiring about five clicks and float-overs to get a For Loop from the palettes.

Ben

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Are they really that far away?  For me, right click, click on structures, click on For loop.  Though perhaps I set a different setting for the tree view or something for the palettes.

[tbob]

Ben wrote:

......do it the hard way (using "Edlin" instead of "VI") ......

Ben

UNIX 4, Edlin, VI (not the Labview kind).  Ben, you sure are showing your age.  I guess I am too since I've used them all.  Somewhere at home I still have that yellow VI manual showing all the commands.

[altenbach]

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Ravens Fan wrote:

Are they really that far away?  For me, right click, click on structures, click on For loop. 

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I agree! I don't really customize palettes because I strongly believe that the only way to have consistency is to use "near defaults" whenever possible. From all structures elements, the FOR loop is closest to home: top-left...top-left.

From all palette items, it is easiest to find. 😄 While most objects take about the same number of clicks unless they are in a sub-sub-palette, the FOR loop needs the shortest mouse movements. 😉

Of course if you are an "express" kind of guy, the FOR loop is a bit harder to find. 😮

[tst]

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Ravens Fan wrote:

Are they really that far away?

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The trick is that you have to change the default, which is not immediately clear.

I did this recently, so I can share at least one way - pin the palettes, click the View button and select "Change Visible Categories...". You can now select to open the Programming palettes by default, as your attachment shows, which is reasonably close to the 7.x behavior.

[Ray.R]

I tried getting the same palette as RavenFan.

There's progress.. I got this far.  Don't know what I did differently.  I selected / de-selected the same items.  Maybe I missed something that made it work.  LOL!! 😄

Message Edited by JoeLabView on 03-06-2008 09:47 AM

[RavensFan]

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JoeLabView wrote:

I tried getting the same palette as RavenFan.

There's progress.. I got this far.  Don't know what I did differently.  I selected / de-selected the same items.  Maybe I missed something that made it work.  LOL!! 😄

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In addition to TST's tip, I also have "View This Palette as"    "Category (Icons and Text)"

(BTW, screenshot I had is LV 8.5 on WinXP)

[altenbach]

I prefer the standard view, no text. We are visual programmers after all! 😉

"Right-click...click...pick"  Voila! A FOR loop. 😄

Message Edited by altenbach on 03-06-2008 08:32 AM

[altenbach]

Just to keep the processor busy, we could subtract 1 then add it again a nanosecond later. 😄

from: http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&thread.id=307007&jump=true

Message Edited by altenbach on 03-06-2008 03:02 PM