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Disable rollover tips for structure

Status: Declined

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When your mouse rolls over a structure, a tip appears that tells you what that structure is. This is only useful the first few days that you are learning LabVIEW. From then on, and I've been a LabVIEW developer for 14 years, it is annoying hindrance, often obscuring something that you really want to see. This tip remains up for varying amounts of time depending on the complexity of the block diagram. There should be a way to selectively turn off this particular tip help; others are useful and should remain.

 

This is something that had subliminally bothered me for a long time. I would unconsciously move the mouse around and click other parts of the bock diagram to get the tip to leave. It was only several years ago that I became aware of this behavior and realized that it doesn't have to be there.

9 Comments
JackDunaway
Trusted Enthusiast

Are you talking about Tip Strips or Context Help? I only get these when I hover on the structure edge for more than a second.

tfl
Member
Member

Built-in LabVIEW tip strips are what I mean. What you saw when you hovered over the structure edge is what I am talking about, however the time that it takes to come up and the time that it takes to leave are erratic. I've seen them come up instantly while my mouse is moving to an object of interest within the structure, and I've seen them take several seconds to go away. Just the "Case Structure" tip strip popping up and going away is annoying, but sometimes it will obscure the object of interest within the structure. After you work with LabVIEW for a short while the tip strip is unnecessary and I would like to be able to turn it off.

 

JackDunaway
Trusted Enthusiast

This reminds me of the "obvious doctor" joke. A patient comes in to see the doctor and says, "It hurts when I do this." The obvious doctor replies, "Well, don't do that."

 

In the meantime, check out this INI setting that allows you to turn off tip strips.

tfl
Member
Member

I like that doctor joke, and use it often with my customers, but you must not understand the issue. It is impossible not to "do that". When I want to move my mouse to select something within a case structure I have to cross the case structure boundary. Often, but not every time as I cross the boundary the tip strip comes up sometimes obscuring what I am trying to select. Moving around a block diagram the tip strips are coming and going. It seems the more complex the application the longer they linger. I have been a LabVIEW developer for 14 years, it's all I do; I am not an engineer who does LabVIEW on the side, so this is an annoyance.

 

I am familiar with turning off the tip strips, but unfortunately the setting to turn off the tip strips turns them all off, which is why in my original post I specified that "others are useful and should remain".

 

JackDunaway
Trusted Enthusiast

Just giving you a hard time with the doctor joke... 😉

 

If I were seeing the same symptoms as you, I would agree it would be annoying. I suppose we have different LabVIEW or OS settings, because Tip Strips appear and fade in a pretty predictable manner on my system. Apparently this crowd is not sympathetic to voting for cosmetic IDE issues that impede development: Disable Shadows for Floating Objects has received no love either.

tfl
Member
Member

Might also be complexity. I see it on an application with thousands of subvis. They come and go quickly for me as well when I open a blank vi and just put one case structure down. Now that you are aware of it you'll be annoyed as well.

 

Also, this was just posted hours ago, so I am still hopeful there will be some response.

tst
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Knight of NI

> I am familiar with turning off the tip strips, but unfortunately the setting to turn off the tip strips turns them all off

 

 

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I've had that setting in my INI file for years (long enough to forget it was there, which made me puzzled as to what it was which was bothering you). The only tip strips I get on the BD that I can think of are for node inputs and outputs and when moving something. It works quite well, IMO. I would say that such a switch should appear in the options dialog (assuming it doesn't already).


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muks
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I amok with selective turn off. Might give a feeling of being an advanced Pro. But I wouldnt turn that off!!!

Darren
Proven Zealot
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Any idea that has received less than 5 kudos within 5 years after posting will be automatically declined.