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Feed Back from load cell to winch motors

Hello,

 

We @ modwind energy incare interested in developing an application where load cell output is used to regulate the winch motors that are driving the load.

 

We have a basic VI to read inputs from the load cell and another one to switch the motor on/off reverse/ forward.

 

Software availableLABview 8.6

 

Hardware available:

 

NI cDAQ 9172

NI 9203

NI 9205

NI 9485


There is not established "laws" to govern "what" and "how much, if any" responses of the winch to the feed back from the load cellAny general idea on how to proceed with building the VI or establishing the governing "laws" in terms of a VI would be helpful

 

Thank You,

jlahir@modwind.

 

 

 

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Are you simplying trying to implement a bang-bang control or something more like a PID? If you are thinking about using a bang-bang control, what you would need to do is to get feedback from the load cell as boolean or state enum, then use that to change the case/state to toggle different operating mode you wish to have.
Andy Chang
National Instruments
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Andy,

 

What we are trying to do is control the rate of loading on the winch i.e.. we would like to say reach 100% capacity of the load cell in 15 mins.  Depending on the pretension in the tension members (recorded by the load cell) the winch would have to slow down/ speed up (via a VFD) and correct itself say every 3 secs. 

 

I will post VIs that we used for a simulation of the above loop in a software environment.  We used the PID control VI.  To get the correct response, the Kp was required to be at 1. and the Kd to be at 1e-4.  Any Ki would throw the response out of the window.  So, I am assuming that the system would suffice with some sort of a simple linear formula that gives the required load that the load cell needs to read for a certain elapsed time and compares that to what the load cell is actually reading.  Then, based on the voltage requirements of the VFD, LabView would send a signal (voltage) to the VFD asking it to slow down or speed up.

 

Your opinion/ critique is very much appreciated.

 

Thank You. 

 

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It would be great to see the VIs that you are using for simulation. From what you are describing, PID control should be sufficient for your application. You may also explore the option of using Gain Scheduling to determine what operating region the system is currently in and to enable the appropriate linear controller
Andy Chang
National Instruments
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Thanks for ur help andy ..  we got the solution to the feed back issue .... thanks again for all ur help ...

 

jian ...

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