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voltage on dna: best data aquisition hardware

Hi all!I'm a final year student and I study in the University of Bologna (I'll get my degree in Biomedical Engeneering on june or july).I need of a device for making data acquisition. My studies are about electric and conducting properties of Dna. I have to buy a NI device to send voltage signals (mV - V scale) on Dna samples. So I need of an "active device" with one analog output. At the same time the device must be able to receive and sampling my voltage/current (pA-nA scale) signal. I have a Macintosh laptop. Give me a tip about the best device for me. Thanks in advance. Sorry for my bad English, I'm Italian!
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Hi Daniele,

Wow. I am really interested in your experiments. This brings me back to 1993 where I used to be a Biomed Eng. and was to do a similar study.

The approach was to use a device called a "voltage clamp" (if my memory serves me right). However, this was to take a measurement of the potential difference at the cellular level. DNA is a bit more challenging. However, the idea was to run a signal near or on the cell culture and monitor the resulting waveform. The problem was how to acquire the resulting signal...

The instrument is not trivial and I don't know if it exists. There are lots of interfering signals to filter out, and at mV/pA scales, I am sure you understand the callenge. The voltages at the DNA level may actually be smaller than mV. Unfortunately, I have no clue what it is. And I have benn away from biomed research for a long time.

Curiosity Question: Do you have any publications on your research?

Regards,

Ray (aka JLV)
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I don't have personal publications on my research yet. I use AFM (atomic force microscope) for my experiments.

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Yes. This is what I was interested in. This is what I suspected.

Now how to measure this.... ???

I spoke with some Engineers about the lack of test instrumentation to take such measurements. One had an interesting idea on how to do this. I cannot remember the details, but we do keep in touch with him. Unfortunately, I made a career change and sid "goodbye" to biomed. -- long story --

The difficulty lied in the fact that the instrument must not interfere with the sample being measured. Being non-intrusive. I am unaware of existing instruments to do this at this time..

I still believe the measurement can be made and there is a lot to be learned from the outcome. 🙂

And I still am interested in that field. Who knows, maybe one day I will switch back.

My belief is that if you excite the DNA with a specific electrical signature, there will be a resultant current signature. It is this resultant signature that interested me. Exciting the dna was one thing. How to measure such a small (pA) current is highly difficult. How to filter it out of all surrounding noise???



Have you looked at the work from Zwolak M & Di Ventra M. at California Institute of Technology, Pasadena?
They looked at the electronic signatures resulting from DNA strands. Fascinating.. 🙂

Also look at Lin X, Jiang X, Lu L. form University of Science and Technology of China

They have an article:

DNA deposition on carbon electrodes under controlled dc potentials.

ABSTRACT:

The native calf-thymus DNA molecule fully dispersed in solution was deposited onto highly oriented pyrolytic graphite, carbon fiber column and disk electrodes under controlled dc potentials. X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy, atomic force microscopy and electrochemical investigations indicated that network structures of DNA could be formed on various carbon electrode surfaces resulting in significant surface enlargement. The conformation, conductivity and stability of the deposited DNA layer largely depended on the concentration of the DNA deposition solution, the applied dc potential and the mode of electric field. The optimal condition for deposition of the DNA on carbon fiber disk electrode was determined as a deposition potential of 1.8 +/- 0.3 V versus 50 mM NaCl-Ag/AgCl and a deposition DNA solution of 0.1 mg ml(-1). Under this condition, the DNA was covalently bonded on the electrode surface forming a three-dimensional modified layer, generating a 500-fold enlarged effective electrode surface area and similarly enlarged current sensitivity for redox species, such as Co(phen)3(3+). A possible mechanism for the formation of DNA networks is proposed.

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Check out this link:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6051380.html
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"Have you looked at the work from Zwolak M & Di Ventra M. at California Institute of Technology, Pasadena?"

Yes,I studied it!But It is a review of several experiments.. Hower I think their work and their results are too old and for this reason wrong! I want find something of new!
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Now you have me really curious..

Maybe we could take this conversation offline.
Is that okay with you?
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For the current measurements in the nA to pA range you will probably need a specialized instrument, such as an electrometer or picoammeter. Trying to make a direct measurement using standard DAQ cards is likely to give poor results due to limited resolution, high noise, and interference with the measurement itself from the large series resistors required. Keithley Instruments makes this type of equipment. LabVIEW drivers via GPIB are available for many of their instruments.

Lynn
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Thanks Lynn,

You are right... "limited resolution, high noise, and interference with the measurement itself "

There will be lots of interference. It is almost like looking for a needle in several hay-stacks..

-JLV-
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