Thanks, I will have to store them then. I would need it for autoscaling as well, since I have 3 traces, 2 of them have 100pts, one has only 30, when I set the visible to false of the two larger traces the graph still is scaled to the larger traces, when i call AutoScaleNow it doesn't take into consideration that the two large traces are already hidden and it should rescale so the smaller one is visible.