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NI 9211 TC system calibration

I am using 4 modules of NI 9211 to perform 2-decimal temperature reading. The setup is simple. We have thermocouples connected to NI 9211 and LabView Program to display the temperature reading. The accuracy of the temperature reading is critical for us.

 

I have a few questions regarding calibration -

(1) What is the difference between external calibration provided by LabVIEW and TC system calibration?

(2) If there is a difference, which type of calibration should I do?

 

Someone suggested me immerse those thermocouples in an ice cold water that has zero degree Celsius and read the temperature reading. After that, use this temperature reading as the calibration factor for our measurements. However, I am not sure if his suggestion is correct.

 

I would greatly appreciate someone can give me some ideas or suggestions. 

 

Thank you.

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External calibration with LabVIEW is what is done as described in the NI 9211 Calibration Procedure Manual (http://www.ni.com/pdf/manuals/372137a.pdf).  I am not sure what you mean by TC system calibration.  Where have you seen reference to this type of calibration?  I assume its something to do with the whole thermocouple system (thermocouples along with DAQ), but I have not come across this before.  Some people do calibrate the readings by immersing the thermocouple in an ice bath, and then comparing the read value with 0 (essentially creating an offset).  If accuracy is a concern, have you considered RTDs?

 

Thanks,

 

Sean N

Applications Engineering Specialist - Semiconductor Test
National Instruments
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Hi Sean,

 

Thank you for the reply.

 

The TC calibration system that I mentioned is referenced from the following link.

 

http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/epd/p/id/3542

 

I am not sure if I should do TC calibration system or the external calibration offered by LabView.

 

Any comment is appreciated. Thanks 🙂

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It appears this article may be a little older.  What version of LabVIEW are you using?  More to the point, are you using DAQmx or Traditional DAQ?  Starting with LabVIEW 8.0, DAQmx was used, so if you are using anything newer than this, I would follow the external calibration as described in the calibration manual.

 

Thanks,

 

Sean

Applications Engineering Specialist - Semiconductor Test
National Instruments
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FYI, the VI from the article about system calibration for SCXI involves using a thermocouple calibrator bath and is only as accurate as the the bath and only valid in the range that the bath can operate in. However, using a bath in this manner is a means to precisely transfer the accuracy of a bath to an entire thermocouple measurement system including the thermocouple transducers themselves and the cold junction compensation.

 

Using an ice bath is a nice way to get a single point calibration (something akin to an offset calibration but at a system level), however ice baths are not as simple as a cup of ice water. NIST can provide guidelines on how to make an ice bath, but I'll summarize some key points A) Use distilled water to make the ice, B) Avoid all contaminants such as salt accumulated on skin, C) shave the ice to make something like a giant snow-cone, D) Add a little distilled water (just enough so that there's something to put the probe into, E) Poke a hole in the snow cone several inches deep to get to the water level, F) Wait 15 minutes, G) Insert the thermocouple so that it is immersed in the liquid water but not touching the ice surrounding it.

 

It's a fairly involved process, so I would recommend either using thermocouples and modules with specs good enough to get you where you need to go, or investing in a sufficiently accurate thermocouple bath calibrator so you can do the system calibration. But just a warning, it's not a trivial task to do that kind of calibration and you can only go as wide in temperature as the bath allows. Thermocouple vendors are able to go farther out in temperature (beyond 150 degrees Celsius or so) by comparing to RTDs (up to several hundred degrees Celsius), or by using physical state changes of other materials such as the melting point of tin or copper, blockbody radiation thermometry or other means. That's beyond the capabilities of average mortals so I would recommend trying to avoid it.

 

Daniel

NI - Conditioned Measurements

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Daniel,

 

Well said! Accurate temperature measurements are often not easy or inexpensive.

 

WEMPEC,

 

What is your requirement for accuracy, temperature range, and resolution?

 

Lynn

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