OEM USB DAQ availability?

[sandheep]

Hi--I've been using the OEM (board only) versions of USB multifunction DAQs in my designs for years, but they seem to be increasingly difficult to find information about them--I can't find a single OEM USB DAQ on the NI website directly (I can find product documentation links via Google, but the results aren't comprehensive, and I don't see any options to purchase OEM DAQs).

None of the usual national distributors seem to have anything in stock.  After month's of pestering my NI rep, I was able to get this list back in Oct 2022, but even if I search the NI website for these part numbers, I'm unable to get pricing or the ability to order:

Bookings Class	Part Number	Description
PCI-6110	780972-01	LECO OEM - PCI-6110 WITH TRADITIONAL NI-DAQ DOCUMENTATION AND SW COMBO KIT, VER 7.4.4 F7
USB-6000	782603-01	USB-6000 OEM BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6001	782605-01	USB-6001 OEM BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6002	782607-01	USB-6002 OEM BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6003	782609-01	USB-6003 OEM BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6008	193132-02	USB-6008 OEM BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6009	193132-01	USB-6009 OEM BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6211	196203-03	NI USB-6211 OEM BUS-POWERED M SERIES, BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6212	197504-03	NI USB-6212 OEM BUS-POWERED M SERIES DAQ, BOARD-ONLY
USB-6216	197504-01	NI USB-6216 OEM ISOLATED  BUS-POWERED M SERIES DAQ, BOARD-ONLY
USB-6218	196203-01	NI USB-6218 OEM ISOLATED BUS-POWERED M SERIES, BOARD ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6221	195959-02	NI USB-6221 OEM M SERIES DAQ DEVICE, (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6225	197294-01	USB-6225 OEM BOARD-ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6229	195959-01	NI USB-6229 OEM M SERIES DAQ DEVICE, (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6251	194929-03	USB-6251 OEM BOARD-ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6255	197201-01	USB-6255 OEM BOARD-ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6259	194929-01	USB-6259 OEM BOARD-ONLY KIT (NO ENCLOSURE)
USB-6281	197596-03	NI USB-6281  M SERIES DAQ, OEM, NI-DAQMX DRIVER, NI LABVIEW SIGNALEXPRESS LE
USB-6289	197596-01	NI USB-6289 M SERIES DAQ, OEM, NI-DAQMX DRIVER, NI LABVIEW SIGNALEXPRESS LE
USB-6341	782250-01	NI USB-6341, OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (16 AI, 2 AO, 24 DIO), 500 KS/S (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6343	782252-01	NI USB-6343, OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (32 AI, 4 AO, 48 DIO), 500 KS/S (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6356	782260-01	NI USB-6356, OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (8 AI, 2 AO, 24 DIO), 1.25 MS/S/CHANNEL (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6361	782254-01	NI USB-6361, OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (16 AI, 2 AO, 24 DIO), 2 MS/S (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6363	782257-01	NI USB-6363, OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (32 AI, 4 AO, 48 DIO), 2 MS/S (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6366	782262-01	NI USB-6366, OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (8 AI, 2 AO, 24 DIO), 2 MS/S/CHANNEL (BOARD ONLY KIT)
USB-6366	786508-01	NI USB-6366 OEM X SERIES DAQ DEVICE (BOARD ONLY KIT, CMRR TESTED)
USB-6501	192317-50	USB-6501 24-CH 5V/TTL DIGITAL I/O AND NI-DAQ - BOARD ONLY OEM VERSION

Are these still being offered by NI?  Does anyone have a comprehensive list of current OEM USB DAQ offerings?  Why is NI making it so damn hard for us to buy these products???

Thanks!

Sandheep

[RIObotics]

Hi Sandheep,

NI has made it increasingly difficult to purchase OEM versions of their DAQ products.  In the years past you could just buy the OEM versions of the DAQ board from their webpage, even in low quantities.  Now it's more like a case-by-case basis, and depends on if your NI rep is willing to push for you internally.  

Earlier this year, they've announced that the M-Series DAQ (62xx) are being discontinued by end of 2023.  This might also explain why they're unable to respond to OEM DAQ requests.

Which models are you looking for in particular?  You can probably find it on ebay, or from sources like the NI Trading Post.  There may be other companies or users who have surplus parts that fit your design.

BR

John

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[sandheep]

John--thanks for the response.  It's sad to hear my experiences confirmed by yours. 

If anyone at NI is listening--please do not discontinue the OEM versions of your USB DAQs!  There are those of us who still use these, who have made them the cornerstone of projects.  Using the enclosed versions of the DAQs makes for a wiring nightmare, but the OEM versions enable elegant solutions.  Imagine what a rat's nest of wires would be required if this project couldn't make use of an OEM DAQ with a custom PCB:

[APS]

I need three USB-6216-OEM p/n 197504.01 now for existing projects.  If anyone is willing to sell theirs, Please call Tony at 817-265-6435. 

I recently placed an order thru Testforce for five USB-6216-OEM part number 197504-01.  They tell me that NI accepted the order and delivery is 11 weeks, May 2024.   And a quantity discount is available for 10.  Good till end of 2024.  I think I may need to buy more.  Do you think I can expect them to actually deliver?   Any updated news about production on this board?

If anybody has any information about what is really going on, or what the minimum is to get them to do a production run, please share.  In the mean time, I am biting my nails.

[MDeby]

I've been using NI OEM cards for 17 years now ! And the other solutions for 28 years !! That's not without first having used the kind of cards that plug into the PC with a thick cable behind it, leading to a tiny box with screws inside that you can't do anything with. How, indeed, do you build and connect a special signal conditioning board in that context? OEM boards offered a unique solution that we no longer have. Clearly, I'm not going back to these plug-in PC cards. These are old, obsolete solutions. USB connections today allow for perfect interfacing and have no limitations in terms of speed, etc. Maintenance is also very easy when the client, who is neither a computer nor electronics technician, is thousands of kilometers away (which is my case). The only solution then is to pay travel expenses for me to come and insert the card into a new computer (it's always the computer that breaks down first). Whereas with a device equipped with a USB connection, the client can unplug and replug it themselves, and I can install the software remotely. That's the difference!

But as I said, it's clear I'm not going back to "external box" solutions. There are plenty of manufacturers of data acquisition boards on the market; it's not just NI. So goodbye NI / "Emerson", you won't see me again.

[ZYOng]

The new NI mioDAQ all come with OEM variant. Better spec and yet more affordable. Check it out if you haven't.

https://www.ni.com/en/shop/data-acquisition/miodaq-devices.html

[sandheep]

Good to know.  I wish the mioDAQ had as broad of a product line as the other USB OEM DAQs, but at least we got something.

Sandheep

[MDeby]

Thank your for your reply.

Maybe the USB-6451 for us.

But where do you see the OEM variant in their catalog ?

I only see this : https://www.ni.com/fr-be/shop/model/usb-6421.html

[ZYOng]

You can select options between OEM or normal variant with enclosure.