only pic16f84 in multisim 10?

[kookly]

i need a good simulator but i need to know that the multisim 10 supports not only the pic16f84/a. it seems funny to ask but by what i read the only mcu that is listed is this.

is it true?, will i need to add money to get other microchip mcu's?

thanks for your help, ran.

[nestor-sg]

Ran,

The MCU module only supports four MCUs... 8051, 8052, PIC16F84 and PIC16F84A. There is no possibility to add new MCUs, it is tied to those four.

[lacy]

Nestor, would it be possible to add this as a feature request. I myself am new to MCU Module, so I don't know if what he's asking is even feasible from your point of view, but it could be an interesting feature for other MCU's to be either available or have the ability to create them like we do other components.

Anyway, that's my thoughts.

Have a nice day.

[lacy]

I have a question. If I can program the PIC16F84 it shouldn't be that much of a stretch to port a program over to another PIC should it? I guess what i am asking is this: Is there much difference between PICs that a program for one wouldn't work with another?

[kittmaster]

If you thought spice models where a PITA, programming an MCU model is a sadistic nightmare. The only real way to properly get the models are from the manufacturer and those are very expensive and difficult to port.

Also most MPU are done in vhdl or hdl and MS doesn't have that engine built in would be my guess.

[lacy]

You're probably right Chris. I han't thought about the difuculty of obtaining models. I guess it would be a living hell.

Do you have any insight to my queston about PICs that I posted?  The MCU Module is new to me and I am learning it as I go.

MS is capable of simulating VHDL and HDL components. This capability has been around since 2001. It is also capable of inporting VHDL models in the coponent wizard. I thought you might like to know this information.

Message Edited by lacy on 08-10-2007 07:29 PM

[kittmaster]

I was under the assumption that commsim was the software they used for vhdl simulation.

Learn something new every day....;)

no insight, the 8051 is an obsolete processor, but a very good learning platform.

[kookly]

this all seems very strange, what am i suppose to do with onlt one pic? and why did this pic was chosen from all the others?

[lacy]

I am not sure I can aswer your question but I'll try. I would assume until I hear differently that this PIC was chosen because it is probably the one that is most popular to use in applications and/or learning situatiions. I am also going to assume that if I can learn to program this PIC then programming other PICS should not be that difficult. There may be minor differences in ports and memory, but It should transfer well to other PICS. So you can learn to use and program this PIC and I guess transfer it to other PICs in reality. If nothing else you will at least have a platform for code testing and circuit simulation using a PIC before actulally burning one.

I am new to this module as well, so what I have told you is just my thoughts and are not be taken as the only explanation.

Have a Nice Day

[kookly]

thanks alot for your help