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I like to collapse long string and path constants to consolidate diagrams.  Showing the string or path value in the tip strip is useful but tedious to update.

 

constant tip strip.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

I suggest an appearance property that would automatically display the current value in a tip strip for string and path constants.

 

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This property would be most useful if the Block Diagram Options page was also modified to allow a global setting.

 

options window.jpg

 

I always wanted to have a table or a (Multicolumn) Listbox that allows me to integrate drop down menus (or other elements)

 

Here's an example from another software (Agilent Benchlink datalogger) which illustrates this quite well:

 

 benchlinkdatalogger.PNG

 

One could realize something similiar by creating his own Array of cluster, but this is cumbersome and very uncomfortable to change/maintain, mainly because of the difficult selection of all the control frames which are placed one over the other...

 

Functionality good, layout questionable...             Layout similar to the picture above, but not very flexible (not an array) and "hard to handle"

arrayofcluster.PNG         SingleClusters.PNG

 

 

PROPOSAL:

Add a new type of list control, behaving similar to a Array of cluster control, where different types of already existing controls can be selected as it's elements, and where those controls are placed next to each other without those annoying and real-estate consuming spaces between them

 

A-T-R

I'm not sure if this idea already exists, at times i wish to have an option to display the line numbers in a string control/indicator/constant.

 

Line numbers

Wouldn't it be nice if Probes window had a drag'n'drop reorder functionality, maybe even a Sort?

 

Often you (I) place a couple of probes, maybe add some in another VI and then go back and add one earlier in a block diagram. 

Is this a problem? Well, it's not breaking, but i'd like probe 1 to be the earliest executed probe and so on. Often execution order can easily be something like 13, 19, 3 and drag'n'drop #3 below the #19 would the shift them as 3, 13, 19. (Similar to how Reorder Case works)

 

It'd be nice if you could drag this probe in the probe window and it'd change numbers accordingly (switch/reorder within the VI).

Maybe even have Sort button that simply renumbers all as they're shown in the probe window.

 

 

It's somewhat similar, but different, to Altenbachs switcheroo idea: https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Probe-switcheroo/idi-p/3126138

A great time saver would be if we could drag or click to switch connections directly in the connector pane instead of having to disconnect and reconnect controls.

 

This can be a simple two click process:

 

Switch Connections.png

 

If there's already another control\indicator where you click, they get switched.

Hi,

 

i propose to add a "Key Focus" event for each control. We already have Mouse events (leaving, entering) - but when the user (or the programmer) prefers the keyboard (with proper tabbing setup) you have to poll each interesting control for it's "Key Focus" property to initiate a user event...

 

So please:

Add a "Got Focus" (and additionally a "Lost Focus") event to the event structure!

Hi,

 

There are numerous ideas floating around about where the color box constant and control should be located in the palettes. How about if there wasn't a distinction between a color box and its numeric representation? Like the "View As Icon" option on terminals and clusters, I suggest a "View As Color Box" on numeric constants and controls/indicators:

 

ViewAsColorBox.png 

 

I'm undecided on if this options should be available for all numeric data types, integers only, or U32 only, and what should happen to the Representation options when the numeric is a color box. I see at least these options (ordered after my preference - I prefer 1) the most):

 

1) The "View As Color Box" option is available for all numeric data types, but when selected the data type changes into U32. If you change Representation to anything else but U32, the "View As Color Box" option is automatically deselected.

 

2) The "View As Color Box" option is available only when the numeric is U32.

 

3) The "View As Color Box" option is available for all numeric data types, and coercion happens between the selected "color value" (U32) and the true Representation of the numeric.

 

Several ideas would be fixed by this, for instance this and this.

 

Cheers,

Steen

In line with giving us a better polymorphic VI editor, doing the same for Enums would be great.  The current implementation is SSSLLLOOOWWW and unwieldy.

 

Enum editor.PNG

 

Please re-visit this functionality to make our lives easier....  So many people create enums via rings for exactly this reason.  This is just unneccessary.

Currently if you flush an event queue that data is lost. Flushing and destroying and event queue should have the same interface as flushing/destroying a normal queue. Return the Data! I want the option to batch process the events, The code below would have to handle 1000 separate events to get the data out.


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Idea
Flush Event Queue.vi should return remaining event data.
Destroy User Event.vi should return any unhandled events.

Whenever we create a constant (or control) on a partially connected function, we get not only the same datatype (good!), but also the same array dimensionality (often not so useful).

 

In the vast majority, I want do do some uniform operation on the entire array, so a scalar control or diagram constant would be much more desirable. I usually end up creating the array constant, then pulling it out of the container, hook it back up, and delete the container. This guarantees the correct datatype (I32, DBL, CDB, etc).

 

(It is even more tedious to place a diagram constant from the palette and then remember the datatype and adjust accordingly).

 

IDEA: 

When creating a control or constant, and it would result in an array, I would prefer to also have a scalar option.

 

This little move illustrates it in the case of creating a diagram constant. It should apply equally to controls.

 

 

Message Edited by altenbach on 07-11-2009 09:51 AM

I'm developing code, and like most people I know, I have multiple VI's open at once.

If I then go and open the VI properties dialog, I lose track of what VI the properties are for, especially if I get an interruption.  I know I can just close the properties window and open it again for whichever VI I wanted (or go to the parent category to see the name), but this could be solved by simply adding the name of the VI to the window title of the Properties dialog. 

 

like this:

 

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.net and many other languages have an intuitive and simple way to allow you to define how a window behaves when you resize it: anchors.  Anchors allow you to define the distance between an edge of a child control and the edge of a parent control regardless of the size of the window. The size of the control itself stays constent unless it violates the rules of the defined anchors in which case it changes sizes to meet those rules. For example a front panel with the following anchors:

 anchor1.png

 

Would be resized into:

 

anchor2.png

The idea is simple: if the label ends in a number (i.e. consecutive string of numeric characters), increment that number:

 

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It seems like it only works if there is a space character. If there is a good reason for doing it that way, help me understand what it is.

 

I linked some similar ideas below. I like these discussions for the most part, but they tend to have broader scopes than what I'm suggesting.

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Smart-er-automatic-label-names-on-copy/idi-p/1873663

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Auto-increment-number-in-middle-of-control-name/idi-p/977710

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Don-t-skip-quot-1-quot-during-automatic-naming-of-copies/idi-p/977300#A2089

Cluster Size as a Wired Input:

 

  • Easier to see
  • More implicit
  • Nearly impossible to forget to set it (if it were a required input).

 Cluster Size.gif

Right now, if you happen to use the right colors, LabVIEW will change the text color on a Boolean.  But, if you don't pick the right colors, LabVIEW keeps a single text color.

 

Boolean Text.png

 

 

This would probably be fine IF LabVIEW allowed you to have multiple text colors, but you can only choose one:

 

Boolean Properties.png

 

But, as you can see, LV only supports one text color.  I propose that LV support two text colors (ON and OFF).  Obviously LabVIEW has the ability to change the color already since it will do it in the right circumstances, but it would be nice if LV gave us control over it.

 

In my use case at the moment, I am trying to make a custom illuminated button which the text on the button should be grey went off, and yellow when on.

I tend to use malleable VIs more often than half of the items in the "New" context menu list when you right-click within a project, however, it's not an option:

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Instead, I either need to:

- Create a new VI and then make several property modifications, and save it as a ".vim".

- Create it through the file menu and then remember that I need to move it to the appropriate place in my project, because it gets created at the top-level.

 

Why not include this in the context menu?  (Bonus points if Polymorphic VIs get added too!)

 

Current it is very hard to reliably manipulate decorations using VI server.

 

LabVIEW need to be able to create explicit decoration references (like it is possible to do on other objects through right click Create>>Reference).

 

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Note: Thanks to TonP for the idea.

The web format wars are over, and the plug-ins have lost.  Microsoft has relented and will support HTML5 and SVG in IE9, and has admitted that Silverlight's role will change to that of a Windows phone development platform.  Silverlight support on iPhone/iPad/Andoid/Chrome OS will likely never be fully formed, and will wither on the vine. 

 

New javascript/ecmascript engines that are much faster, and make use of multicore environments have arrived and work well.  The addiition of WebSockets means your browser can now open a tcp/ip socket.  I have done this, as I am sure others have, as well.  Drop an old-fashioned tcp/ip listener into your diagram, return the WebSocket handshake, and presto: you can now stream data directly to/from your browser.  WebSockets provides an "onmessage" event handler function which you can define.  Combine this with the SVG DOM, and you can transform SVG elements until your heart is content.  Two-way streaming of data between your browser and plain-old tcp/ip?  Goodbye web services, we knew you well. Good riddance, plugins.

 

I have built my own SVG UI objects using Inkscape (free), and wrote a script (notepad/Inkscape script editor, also free) to handle WebSockets communication without a gateway.  I have a simple LV class built on the TCP/IP functions that will stream data to/from a browser which is pointing to an SVG "webpanel" that I also built using Inkscape.  So far I have a simple waveform graph, buttons, LED's, progress bars, etc.  I have tested my Inkscape webpanels in Firefox 4.0 Beta and Google Chrome 9 and it works like a champ, and is very fast.  The old-fashioned LV webserver will serve up SVG files with the addition of a mime type. 

 

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An alternative to SVG is the HTML5 <canvas> tag, which allows the rendering of graphics drawn using java/ecma script.  There is a free-for-personal-use script library called RGraph Library that you can download with lots of example code.  Here is RGraph/LabVIEW in action in Chrome 9:

 

 

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So what is my idea?  

 

0. Ditch Silverlight.

 

1. Convert all of the nice-looking UI panel objects in the Web UI Builder from Microsoft XAML to SVG and distribute them with the  LabVIEW professional development license.  I am programmer first, and I admit my web panel objects don't look too good.

 

2. Design a script library for handling WebSockets communcation (or add native support for WebSockets to the Shared Variable Engine) and manipulating/updating the SVG UI objects from streamed WebSockets data.  Make this library open source.

 

3. Create a standard open protocol for streaming LabVIEW data that sits on top of WebSockets and is free and open.

 

4. Publish documentation for the SVG UI elements so users and thrid parties can create new UI objects.  Make use of the creativity of the community at large!

 

5. Modernize the Web Publishing Tool so that it will optionally output an HTML5 and/or SVG document that accepts streaming I/O from WebSockets.  The user could choose from compatible SVG elements to use in place of front panel elements on the VI being published.

 

6. Create a Web UI SVG element exchange for registered NI users to upload/download elements for free.

 

7.  Work toward the long term goal of adding SVG Import/Export to the control editor (with better editing tools), or make the CTL format of custom controls SVG/XML.

 

I really like the new arrow feature with block diagram comments.  But in many cases, I have a comment that applies to more than one BD object.  So, I would like the ability to link my comment to multiple objects instead of just one.

This would allow me to turn this:

Multiple comment before.PNG

into this:

Multiple comment after.PNG

 

Thanks!

 

-John

The concept of fluent interfaces using method chaining applied to a LabVIEW block diagram would be awesome!

 

When calling .NET libraries from LabVIEW, block diagrams explode horizontally - the aspect ratio of the diagram can easily push 5:1 or worse (it's 10:1 in the example below). Some Method Chaining syntactical sugar would yield a more space-efficient-and-readable 4:3 to 16:9 or so.

 

Property Chaining is already well-established in LabVIEW - let's get us some Method Chaining!

 

LabVIEW-Idex-Proposed-Fluent-Interface-with-Method-Chaining.png

 

See the first comment for footnotes...