Labview on PC-104 to control NI high speed digitiser

[Brian Ward]

Hei,

I am checking out the possibility of buying an instrument which uses a
National Instrument's high speed digitiser to acquire data, and
labview to control the data acquisition and perform a FFT on the burst
of data. The control PC is usually a desktop, with w2k and PIV
recommended. The NI digitiser is a PCI card.

However, I need to run this system on a PC-104 and it's got to be
portable. Can anyone advise if:
1. The PC-104plus can handle a PCI high speed digitiser?
2. Labview will run on the PC-104 system?

Many thanks,
Brian Ward.

[Labviewguru]

Brian,

This is in fact VERY doable. I saw a presentation on it at NI Week last year!.

Get yourself a copy of "Graphical Programming, 3e" by Gary Johnson. Starting in about Chapter 22, you will find a sample project where they embedded a LabVIEW application on Linux in a PC104 with 32MB of flash and no hard drive. I was highly impressed. Keep in mind you will have to get some hardware and software in order to do this, as well as order a copy of LabVIEW for Linux (or try it out with the evaluation version.)

Good luck, and please let us know how you do (or at least keep me up to date.)

[uuuu]

PC-104 uses the ISA bus which is much slower than PCI.
So no you cannot fit a PCI card into a PC104.

Rene
--
Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net


Brian Ward wrote:
> Hei,
>
> I am checking out the possibility of buying an instrument which uses a
> National Instrument's high speed digitiser to acquire data, and
> labview to control the data acquisition and perform a FFT on the burst
> of data. The control PC is usually a desktop, with w2k and PIV
> recommended. The NI digitiser is a PCI card.
>
> However, I need to run this system on a PC-104 and it's got to be
> portable. Can anyone advise if:
> 1. The PC-104plus can handle a PCI high speed digitiser?
> 2. Labview will run on the PC-104 system?
>
> Many
thanks,
> Brian Ward.

[Andrew Tweddle]

Rene Tschaggelar wrote:
>
> PC-104 uses the ISA bus which is much slower than PCI.
> So no you cannot fit a PCI card into a PC104.
>
> Rene
> --
> Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
> & commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
>
> Brian Ward wrote:
> > Hei,
> >
> > I am checking out the possibility of buying an instrument which uses a
> > National Instrument's high speed digitiser to acquire data, and
> > labview to control the data acquisition and perform a FFT on the burst
> > of data. The control PC is usually a desktop, with w2k and PIV
> > recommended. The NI digitiser is a PCI card.
> >
> > However, I need to run this system on a PC-104 and it's got to be
> > portable. Can anyone advise if:
> > 1. The PC-104plus can handle
a PCI high speed digitiser?
> > 2. Labview will run on the PC-104 system?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Brian Ward.

Conceivably you could build a reproduction of the NI card (if speed
isn't a constraint).
Older versions of Labview used to run on much slower Macintosh's and
PC's.
Or it might just be way to much trouble?

[uuuu]

Andrew Tweddle wrote:
> Rene Tschaggelar wrote:
>
>>PC-104 uses the ISA bus which is much slower than PCI.
>>So no you cannot fit a PCI card into a PC104.
>>
>>Rene
>>--
>>Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
>>& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
>>
>>Brian Ward wrote:
>>
>>>Hei,
>>>
>>>I am checking out the possibility of buying an instrument which uses a
>>>National Instrument's high speed digitiser to acquire data, and
>>>labview to control the data acquisition and perform a FFT on the burst
>>>of data. The control PC is usually a desktop, with w2k and PIV
>>>recommended. The NI digitiser is a PCI card.
>>>
>>>However, I need to run this system on a PC-104 and it's got to be
>>>portable. Can anyone advise if:
>>>1. The PC-10
4plus can handle a PCI high speed digitiser?
>>>2. Labview will run on the PC-104 system?
>>>
>>>Many thanks,
>>>Brian Ward.
>>
>
> Conceivably you could build a reproduction of the NI card (if speed
> isn't a constraint).
> Older versions of Labview used to run on much slower Macintosh's and
> PC's.
> Or it might just be way to much trouble?

One could think of attaching an ADC to a PC104 if the speed of the PC104
was sufficient. It all depends on the required speed of the ADC. Even
some buffer memory would be possible.

Rene

[crelf]

We tried using an NI-PCI-5911 in a PC-104 form factor, and it worked only sporadically: after changing everything from the card, backplane, mother card, video card, etc, we couldn't get it to work reliably, but that could have been a problem with the brand of back plane and mothercard we were using 😞

[RM]

Brian Ward wrote:
> Hei,
>
> I am checking out the possibility of buying an instrument which uses a
> National Instrument's high speed digitiser to acquire data, and
> labview to control the data acquisition and perform a FFT on the burst
> of data. The control PC is usually a desktop, with w2k and PIV
> recommended. The NI digitiser is a PCI card.
>
> However, I need to run this system on a PC-104 and it's got to be
> portable. Can anyone advise if:
> 1. The PC-104plus can handle a PCI high speed digitiser?
> 2. Labview will run on the PC-104 system?
>
> Many thanks,
> Brian Ward.

You can use pc104PLUS with a PCI adapter, but your throuput
may be more limited that you need. ( You did not spec. the
size and time of the burst of data.)

Labview has a good sized footpri
nt (RAM size) but there is a good
chance that it will fit.

Finally, you may need more horsepower( faster CPU) than you can get
cheaply on a PC104+.

Rick
Merrill