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Konan__

Please create an additional toolbar named "Delacor" that has at least 2 buttons: one to create a new module, one to create a new event.

 

It's too tedious to go everytime via menu Tools, Delacor, DQMH, bla bla

 

Clipboard01.jpg

 

In this picture you can see on the right the JKI tester toolbar, and also the NI Unit Test Framework toolbar.

 

thanks

 

 

Desruelle_luc

Greetings from France

be able to upgrade the module type, for example singleton type to cloneable type, would be a great feature.

menu -> DQMH -> Module -> updgrade

A+

Luc

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JoGra

Hi,

 

This might be a special use case, but maybe there are more applications for a cluster of event registration refnums for helper loops.

 

My use case involves DAQmx or IMAQdx events. These events get registered through a DAQmx or IMAQdx reference, like this:

JoGra_2-1704363872542.png

 

The register for events for the helper loop is happening before the loop and the task is started, which means that registering to the "Done" event of the task doesn't work if done like this:

JoGra_4-1704364222059.png

Because there is no valid task reference yet, so the event registration gives an error.

What works instead is the bundling of the "Module Request Events"-event registration refnum with a static event registration refnum of the task "Done" event. 

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Inside the helper loop, at a point where the task has been created, the event registration for "Done" event can be updated.

JoGra_6-1704364631172.png

 

This works very well and simplified my code, which before had another async VI which registered to the daqmx event and sent a broadcast to the helper loop. This is much nicer. 

 

The drawback is that the DQMH event scripting tool does not support the extra namespace ("Module Events") of the clustered event registration refnums. This results in that every time the Module Request Events get updated the assignment of events to in helper loops event handler gets broken and they need to assigned again manually.

JoGra_7-1704365226221.png


This happens when any kind of request is created. If the request is created for the helper loop this error appears:

JoGra_8-1704365328661.png

 

This is how my helper looks like after assigning the events again:
(using just a bundle instead of bundle by name for space reasons)

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Proposal:

 

Addition of check to request (and broadcast) creation, that when a helper loop exists and  the event registration refnum for the request events (and probably also the broadcast events) is bundled in a cluster with some other event registration refnum, the extra namespace (eg "Module Events") gets handled and the events can be created and assigned.

 

 

 

Darren

When I create a new Broadcast, here's what the new frame in the API Tester looks like:

 

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I almost always end up adding the following code by hand (usually by copying it from another frame):

 

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It seems to me that most of this code could be scripted. Maybe everything except the value of the first format string?

 

(idea originally posted here)

Darren

I would like a right-click plugin where I could right-click a DQMH broadcast subVI and "Find Event Frames". This would search all VIs in my current project for event structures that are registered for the broadcast event fired by the subVI I clicked on, and show me a list of results that I could double-click and be shown the event frames one at a time. Or I guess it could just open all the diagrams for me, since I probably want to walk through all of them anyway.

 

The operation could take a while, but would be worth it. I often find myself wondering where all the places are in my code that are registered for a particular broadcast.

 

(idea originally posted here)

doyles

I saw that this request for automatically refreshing the modules was released: https://forums.ni.com/t5/DQMH-Consortium-Toolkits-Feature/Auto-press-the-refresh-button-on-cloneable....  I am thrilled that idea was submitted, approved, implemented, and released by the time I got here to submit the idea.

 

I believe there is one other aspect of the API Testers that should be configured by default: the visibility of the Show Block Diagram and Show Diagram on Init buttons.  Since these buttons have no use in an executable, they cause confusion for operators.  I would propose the following code is scripted (instead of me needing to add it to every API Tester):

 

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Thanks,

Scott

Olivier-JOURDAN

Original idea from Matthias Baudot in https://anchor.fm/wired-in-software/episodes/Episode-6---Matthias-Baudot-from-Studio-Bods-emtpti

 

When you have lots of modules (20+), initializing module selector control tends to take seconds that can be annoying when you need to use the scripting tools.

 

Finding a way to remove this init time would greatly improve the user experience in large application development.

bienieck

When I first saw the auto-generated VIs in the DQMH framework, I was surprised at how chaotic they looked, despite being automatically generated. I thought, "Alright, it’s auto-generated anyway, so there's no point in worrying about it." However, it kept bothering me. Eventually, I decided, "I’ll replace the template with one where the elements are better organized, and I can also add a few small modifications of my own."

 

However, when I tried to do this, I realized that the templates didn’t include stubs for everything, and what was generated from scratch covered much more than I had expected. This completely disrupted my plans.

 

Therefore, I would like to request a modification of the generation process so that the templates include more stubs, which the generator replaces in a more predictable manner. Additionally, I’d appreciate clear documentation that would allow me to customize the template without risking breaking anything. Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I don’t think there are that many possible combinations in these templates?

 

I’m most interested in the request templates, but I believe the idea could be generalized to other cases as well.

TiTou

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JKI State machine has a great tool that comes with it, when you right clic on a BD element of a VI that contains a JKI State Machine, the option menu has the item "JKI State Machine explorer", fantastic tool to facilitate browsing the numerous frames of the case and of the event structure.

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A similar tool for the DQMH module would be a great help!

Olivier-JOURDAN

When creating new module, I'd like a way to add a text explaining its responsibility. It will reinforce good conception practices and allow Antidoc to retrieve information to generate a valuable documentation.

 

Note: IMO, this content should be added to the module lvlib description.

 

If this field could optionally mandatory to create the module, I would find this great 🙂

SAndreas

As mentioned in DQMH Forum: VI Reentrance issue VIs which are required to be non-reentrant are not reported from the DQMH validation tool if they were changed (e.g. to shared clone)

 

Some of the important VIs which should be reported:

  • Obtain Broadcast Events.vi
  • Obtain Request Events.vi
  • Clone Registration AE.vi
  • Start Module (is already reported)
  • Basically all used FGV's

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Create Project with a new clonable module
  2. Change all non-reentrant VIs to shared clone
    SAndreas_0-1679303699390.png

     

  3. Run module validation and execute fix
    1. Start Module.vi will be updated and changed
  4. Rerun module validation
    1. No issues reported

ChrisFarmerWIS

The below image comes from the Error Reported broadcast event case in the API Tester (as found in the default Singleton or Cloneable DQMH module templates):

 

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This produces strings that look like this:

 

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This could be improved by adding the "message" component of the error, by using the Simple Error Handler.vi.  Using the message makes the error report more descriptive, and doesn't rely on the user having to use "Explain Error" to review what the error code's could possibly be related to.

 

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This produces strings that look like this:

 

 Ozfarmboy_3-1627952632399.png

 

Observe that the error message is now present in the text.

1984

Problem: 

Currently the DQMH stock requests / broadcasts (eg: Stop module, Hide panel etc) are mixed with the user created requests / broadcasts so if one likes to check which requests, broadcasts etc are in the module he needs to open different subfolders and visually filter out the stock events. 

 

This is a readability issue which makes it significantly harder to quickly understand (or recall) what events are available for the given module.

 

Possible solution: 

Instead of mixing the stock DQMH events with the non-stock events create a virtual folder above all the virtual folders called "Module Specific" with subfolders like Requests, Broadcasts, Private and Controls and put everything the user create to there by default.

 

Big advantage of this of organizing the files this way would be that one could assume that whatever is module specific can be found in the these dedicated folders instead of spreaded somewhat randomly in the virtual folder structure of the module. I said somewhat randomly because the strucure as is currently is hard to read so developers try to make it more readable, everyone on his own way (eg: creating different folders, prefixing the user created events etc). So besides the increased readability of the module by applying this feature there is a very good chance that modules' structure will become more standardized across developers working at different companies.

 

 

CyGa

Hi,

Today when I finish creating an event / module, If I want to create a new one I've got to click again on Tools => Delacor => DQMH => Create...

Sometimes, after planning my architecture I'll need to create several modules/events in a row to start building my app.

Going through the menus each time is a pain in such case.

 

Maybe replacing the OK button by a Create button and a Create and Continue button would help to this (like you can have using Redmine for example).

 

The Create button would act like the OK button today.

The Create and Continue button would generate the new event / module but without closing the window.

It would simply reset the fields to their defaut values (and reopen a new virgin payload/paramater window in case of creating an event).

 

This way creating several items in a row would be really faster and easier.

 

(more details in the ppt attached)

Eric_BOB

1)I don't think it's possible in DQMH 5.0 to modify arguments of one Event without removing it and re-create it. Lots scripting but very useful. Perhaps, in the convert tool menu?

2) Remove automatically all vi's and controls create during event creation if there is a problem during this process. I have encountered this problem and I have lost time before understanding why I couldn't recreate the same event.

Darren

When I need one of the reply payload values of a Request and Wait for Reply VI, I need to unbundle 100% of the time. What if the Request and Wait for Reply VI output the reply payload elements individually on the VI conpane so I don't need to unbundle? I often make this change manually to my Request and Wait for Reply VIs. And I never unbundle the error from the payload, since it's already merged into the error stream inside the VI. So I wouldn't expect that output to be on the conpane. But all the other payload parameters, you betcha!

 

(idea originally posted here)

Thoric

Reviewing somebody's DQMH code I noticed an error generated in the exit case where they had cleanup code (1) was not captured by the Tester. This is purely because the exit case causes the MHL to terminate (2), so the normal error handling strategy (3) doesn't work (enqueuing another job called Error). Can I propose, unless there's a better technique, that adding the "Error Report" broadcast at the end of the Exit case (4) is a simple way to ensure any errors generated here get reported.

 

Add Error Broadcast in MHL Exit CaseAdd Error Broadcast in MHL Exit Case

Enrique.Noe

Hi, I would suggest adding a boolean called 'Include Dependencies' to the function on the scripting API to search for DQMH modules on the project, sometimes we have projects and we call DQMH Modules not listed on the project itself, but the developer should be aware we are calling those DQMH modules under dependencies, the Panther Dashboard for DQMH already is searching for DQMH modules under dependencies but it would be great if the native function does this functionality, also, I suggest adding a boolean array output to know if the resulting modules are located under dependencies or they are in the project.

 

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This is how I visualize the connector pane of the 'Get DQMH Modules in Project.vi'

 

Thank you!.

 

Darren

I feel like a DQMH module isn't "valid" if its Main VI or its Tester are broken. Right now a module with either of these VIs being broken can pass all validation tests. If something goes wrong after I've run some module "fixers" (or perhaps an external factor has caused my module to become broken without my knowledge), the DQMH Validate Module tool seems like a good place to let me know about it.

CyGa

I sometimes need to launch and stop a tester programmatically (mainly from TS).

 

I can launch the tester programmatically using VI server, but I need to do this wrapper for each tester.

 

To stop a tester, there is no way to actually do it programmatically.

The only action that stop a tester is manual one (closing the tester's window).

 

I would like a Tester API (basically 2 VIs) created by default in every module that would allow me to launch and stop a tester programmatically.