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joerg.hampel

When the DQMH Consortium introduced the support for private requests with DQMH 7.0, a conscious decision was made not to support synchronous requests with reply, to avoid dead-lock scenarios.

 

With the way we at HSE start additional DQMH modules from any given DQMH module (by sending a request from the MHL to the EHL to start and register for modules, then reply back to the calling MHL case, so the whole process becomes synchronous), it would be super helpful if we could script those private "start submodule" requests the exact same way as all other private requests.

 

TL;DR: Add support for private Request and Wait for Reply.

 

Edit: After internal discussion, let me add that I know how to make a regular request a private one by setting the access scope. I don’t want to do that - I want the private Request with Reply to be the same as all other private events, and not a modified public request.

 

Edit2: If you scroll down, you'll see that Manu added a vital piece of information. We usually communicate with one of the EHLs/Helper Loops, not the MHL. So scripting should not create another case in the MHL but keep the reply in the targeted EHL/Helper Loop.

CyGa

Today DQMH scripters add comments with specific hashtags. But some of these hashtags names are very generic (for example #CodeNeeded or #CodeRecommended).

Adding a 'DQMH_' prefix would allow a better isolation of DQMH related hashtags in the bookmark manager (ie. #DQMH_CodeNeeded).

Actually some DQMH tags already have this prefix (#DQMH_HowTo).

 

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CyGa

For some reason I need to know the module name of the module that I start.

Module name constant is a private VI and therefore cannot be called in a cller VI diagram.

Having the Start Module VI returning this information could be useful (instead of specifically creating a R&R just for this purpose).

 

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CyGa

Today when creating adding a module template it is not possible to set a 'human readable' name for template.

The template name is the module's library name. Having a field to specify a more friendly name could be useful (could be set by default withe the module's library name though).

 

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ChrisFarmerWIS

For DQMH modules written prior to DQMH 7, helper loops will unlikely have the "DQMH_HELPER_LOOP_NAME" string constant wired to the error helper VI as shown below.

 

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This idea is to propose a new test be added to DQMH Validate Module to check that all helper loops have this string constant present.

CyGa

When creating a new event for a module and my project contains numerous modules, finding the correct module in the list can be somehow painfull.

Listing the DQMH modules in alphabetic order would help finding the correct module faster.

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sergiovelderrain

I am aware of the note that is being shown on the "Remove DQMH Event" that states: 

 

" NOTE 2: You cannot remove the last private event from a DQMH module. Once a private request has been created, the module requires at least one private event to be present." 

 

The request i believe would come in handy, is that instead of "hiding" or "not showing" the one and only private request, to instead show it as available for deletion, and when pressing OK, populate the information on a popup that shows what NOTE 2 said. 

 

This with the objective of not giving the user the notion that DQMH scripting tools are broken, especially the ones just beginning to use DQMH.

ChrisFarmerWIS

Credit goes to doyles for initially coming up with this idea.

 

Go here for previous discussions:

https://forums.ni.com/t5/Delacor-Toolkits-Discussions/Feature-request-Automate-the-Helper-Loop-creat...

 

My ideas for this are:
  1. Include a "checkbox" onto the Add New DQMH Module dialog panel that is labelled "Include a Helper Loop"
     

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  2. If the user checks this checkbox, a helper loop is automatically added to the Main.vi
  3. The helper loop would not be a sub-VI, but simply a third loop on the main.vi block diagram.
  4. A Wake up Helper Loop request is automatically created and included in a Private Requests virtual folder
  5. Make the helper loop generic as per Sam's suggestion. My suggestion is to have three user events: 1) Timeout 2) <Stop Module> 3) <Wakeup Helper Loop>
  6. Label the additional "Register for Events" node something different from the other "Register for Events" node, ie. DQMH_REG_EVENTS_HELPER_LOOP (so that the Validate tool does not raise it as an issue)
  7. When generating a helper loop for new cloneable modules, ensure that in the "Wakeup Helper Loop" and "Stop Module" user events, that the Addressed to this Module.vi is used.

CyGa

When you create a Request and Reply event, the scripter creates such code in the MHL :
 
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And I always end up refactoring it this way :
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('Status update' related code can be ignored if it is a bit too much).
Is it possible, using scripting, to directly script that so we don't have to do this each time ?

ChrisFarmerWIS

When you create a new cloneable module from the default Cloneable, it creates the new module which includes the following automatically created libraries:

 1) VI Reference Management

 2) Clone Registration

 

However these libraries do not have a description.  Could we please add a description to these for the next DQMH release?

 

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Main reason for this request: We have an inhouse tool that finds all libraries/classes/VIs/ctls that do not have a description and then allows the user to edit these in one place. These two libraries keep showing up in the list for each DQMH module.

joerg.hampel

Wouldn't it be great if double-clicking on certain failures in the Validator results window took us directly to the related place on the BD or the corresponding VI in the project window?

 

I'm thinking about the ones where you need to manually do something. Like disconnecting the Main VI terminals from its connector when moving from Run VI method to Start Async method, or updating your static VI ref by dragging the main VI onto the constant...

FabiolaDelaCueva

The problem I want to fix:

I want to be able to try to fix or poke the code more when an error occurs in the API Tester. The opportunity of going to the block diagram or attempting to send a different request goes away because the API Tester, by default, closes when an error occurs.

 

How I propose fixing it:

The first thing that I change on an API Tester at the first error is to remove the OR connected to the stop terminal in the loop and add an error indicator at the end instead of the Simple Error Handler and connect a local variable for the error. Would you please vote to have DQMH do this by default and have a validator to modify existing API Testers?

 

Current API Tester:

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Proposed change:

 

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Thanks,

Fab (yes, being the DQMH Lead Architect does not guarantee that all my wishes are turned into reality 😉 )

 

CyGa

Today most of our screens support a 1920x1080 resolution.

And the actual space that I can basically use in the MHL is 530x315 pixels (roughly, surface of the MHL minus subdiagram comment).

Which means that my useful coding surface is only 30% of my screen resolution.


I guess the EHL and MHL can be designed wider so that we have more space for our custom code.

1984

In many cases I launch the cloneable instance(s) and launch the API tester on demand. In this case the API tester doesnt show if any instances are already running, I need to press the refresh button which I forgot in most of the cases. Other developer not that familiar with DQMH forgot it all the time causing confusion.

 

I have fixed this in the template module we use for cloneables:

 

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ChrisFarmerWIS

In the Create New DQMH Event... dialog panel, add a checkbox and label it "Make this a Private Request".
If this box is checked, the DQMH tools would create the request as normal, but store it under a virtual folder called "Private Requests" (Access scope = private)
 
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joerg.hampel

When validating a number of modules and going through the list of fixes, it's sometimes hard to keep track of what has already been fixed.

 

It would be nice to have some information on which failures were already fixed, and whether the fix was applied successfully or if there were errors or if there's a need for manual work.

 

I just put some icons into the screenshot to illustrate my idea - my feature request asks for a prettier implementation 😉

 

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Enrique.Noe

Everytime I create a new request to a DQMH cloneable module I always end up connecting the Module ID terminal to the new request added to API Tester, please add an additional scripting step to connect this terminal automatically

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joerg.hampel

This feature request is adding to the already existing "Private Request" and "Helper Loop Creation" requests (or not?):

 

When working with helper loops in cloneable modules, it would be nice to have a way for sending messages from the MHL to the helper loop which doesn't need the module ID, and which doesn't interfere with other clones' helper loop timings. I'd still like this new mechanism to look and feel like the regular events, with all the scripting and other goodness.

 

Maybe instead of calling them private events, a better name would be "local" events (which would, of course, be set to private scope).

ChrisFarmerWIS

Please add a test to the Validate Module tool:

 

Find all while loops in the Main.vi of the specified module(s), and check if the DQMH Error Handler - Helper loop.vi is used to handle errors in each of the while loops, and flag it if not.  Ignore the default EHL and MHL in this check.

JoGra

Hi,

 

This might be a special use case, but maybe there are more applications for a cluster of event registration refnums for helper loops.

 

My use case involves DAQmx or IMAQdx events. These events get registered through a DAQmx or IMAQdx reference, like this:

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The register for events for the helper loop is happening before the loop and the task is started, which means that registering to the "Done" event of the task doesn't work if done like this:

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Because there is no valid task reference yet, so the event registration gives an error.

What works instead is the bundling of the "Module Request Events"-event registration refnum with a static event registration refnum of the task "Done" event. 

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Inside the helper loop, at a point where the task has been created, the event registration for "Done" event can be updated.

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This works very well and simplified my code, which before had another async VI which registered to the daqmx event and sent a broadcast to the helper loop. This is much nicer. 

 

The drawback is that the DQMH event scripting tool does not support the extra namespace ("Module Events") of the clustered event registration refnums. This results in that every time the Module Request Events get updated the assignment of events to in helper loops event handler gets broken and they need to assigned again manually.

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This happens when any kind of request is created. If the request is created for the helper loop this error appears:

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This is how my helper looks like after assigning the events again:
(using just a bundle instead of bundle by name for space reasons)

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Proposal:

 

Addition of check to request (and broadcast) creation, that when a helper loop exists and  the event registration refnum for the request events (and probably also the broadcast events) is bundled in a cluster with some other event registration refnum, the extra namespace (eg "Module Events") gets handled and the events can be created and assigned.