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The situation:

There is a user interface that provides the user with an array control.

The array control provides the user only one or a limited number of elements.

The user must use the scroll bars or the index control to select the correct element that he wants to modify.

 

The problem:

The user can scroll to a position beyond the last available array element and enter data. This increases the size of the array as expected, but not as desired in the given situation.

After the user finishes entering, the program must check the size of the array and reduce it again.

The proposed solution:

There should be a "max. array index" property of the array control. It should prevent the user from scrolling to a position beyond this maximum element index and/or editing such a position. It should also prevent adding elements via the right-click menu when the maximum number of elements has already been reached.

 

Extensions:

There could also be a minimum property that prevents the user from deleting array elements so that the total number falls below the minimum.

 

Notes:
The proposed solution should only affect the user's input capabilities. It should not change the size of the array if it was specified programmatically.

Have you ever placed a background image on your front panel to make it look good, but then found that most of the controls and indicators covered everything up?

Ever wish LabVIEW had more appearance customization to make better looking GUIs?

 

I would like to propose an opacity slider control in the appearance settings tab of front panel object properties. The added setting would not make the entire objects opacity change; ideally the opacity control would only affect the borders and grey space. With this added control users can make better looking user interfaces without having to make custom controls.

 

Take a look at the difference:

 

Not Ideal Front Panel with background image and NO Opacity Control

 

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Beautiful Front Panel with background image that you can still see by setting Opacity Control to 50%

 

front_panel_semi_transparent.png

 

 

 

Before and After Appearance Settings tab in the Properties Window for a waveform graph:

 

appearance settings before and after.png

 

 

 

Currently the only easy way to implement a similar type of setting is go fully transparent by using the tools palette paintbrush tool and setting the color to transparent:

 

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Kudos and share this idea if you want it to happen!

We have (collectively) complained about coercion dots many times on various LV forums -- they are nearly invisible and there are three different kinds, which require different levels of concern. The problem is that there are very few pixels within a terminal and there's no space for any pattern to differentiate the three kinds of coercion (and changing colors is a problem for reasons discussed here in the Idea Exchange).

 

Another LV developer had an idea that I liked: add an option to view giant coercion dots. We have avoided this because coercion dots bigger than the terminal would interfere with wiring. However, many developers have a policy of eliminating all coercion dots on their diagrams. For those who have such a policy, they could eliminate the coercion dots as they work, and thus might not see any problem from such large dots. Large dots would solve lots of other usability problems that coercion dots have today.

 

This option could be something in Tools>>Options, but I'd rather it be something in the View or Edit menus so it can be quickly toggled on or off with a shortcut key.

 

These graphics are "programmer art" -- I just made the three dots look different. Please sumit alternate images for the three dot types if you have better style suggestions. I did make the three dots differ in both pattern and color so that we avoid problems with colorblindness. The type-only was a solid dot, the widening coercion is a bulls eye, and the narrowing coercion is a single ring. Any redesign should definitely take colorblindess into account.

 

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Problem: When an error occurs inside some DAQmx VIs, the error source (the string component of the error cluster) does not contain the call chain. This means that it is impossible to know the location where the error occurred based on looking at the error message.

 

Real-world example: The other day I encountered DAQmx error -200477 on a cRIO-9045 that uses DAQmx to acquire data from several different C-Series modules. The real-time application that was running on the cRIO contained an error handling module, which correctly logged the error to file. I saw the following when using PuTTY and the linux 'cat' command to display the contents of the error log file.

 

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Notice that the error message does not contain any information as to where in the codebase this error actually occurred. This meant that I had to spend a few minutes inspecting the moderately large codebase before identifying the likely location of the error. Running subsequent tests I was able to confirm that that was the location of the error. The error was soon understood and fixed.

 

Root-cause: The root-cause of the issue (lack of call chain information) is the DAQmx Fill In Error Info.vi. In the real-world example above the error was occurring inside the DAQmx Timing (Sample Clock).vi.


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The block diagram of this VI is seen below:

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Any LabVIEW errors generated inside that VI are generated by the DAQmx Fill In Error Info.vi. This VI is, of course, essentially a simple translator between the return type (I32) output of the Call Library Function Node and a native LabVIEW error. That VI has an unwired input named depth whose default value is 1. This means that only the last link of the call chain is inserted into the error message.

 

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Solution: Always insert the complete call chain inside all DAQmx error messages.

Yup,  Upgrading LabVIEW versions takes a day.

 

The "Process" today is:

  • Install from media
  • Configure the new LabVIEW.ini
  • install tookits (OpenG, Deploy, VIPM, TSVNtk.....)
  • Mass Compile all them......
  • Fix palatte views... and import and mass compile User.lib\ for here.....
  • Sync glyphs on the icon editor (If the link works......)
  • Add VIT's
  • Add Project Templates
  • Mass compileVIt's and Templates
  • fix "Metadata.xml"...

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Yup, about a day of watching paint dry...........mass compiling, ignoring warnings etc......

"MyLabVIEW" would find all of those customizations and import them to the new version!

I've had enough!  Your code does not have to look like this:

all your paths.png

 

Or this:

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You don't have to wire a string into Build Path's second input!  It can take a relative path just fine!  This is particularly helpful when building relative paths that involve climbing a directory structure.  But it's also useful for building hard-coded folder paths, or even just specifying a file name:

 

everything works.png

 

 

I've seen code that looks like the first two images way too often, so I propose the following:

 

  • Change the name of the second input of the Build Path function to 'relative path or name'.
  • Change the default data type of this input (i.e. what it looks like when unwired) to path instead of string.

The function will still work fine with string inputs (so existing code is fine), but this approach encourages developers to actually use the path data type when working with paths. You should kudo this idea if you have ever (1) written code that looks like the first two images, (2) needed to explain to someone that they can wire a path into Build Path's second input, or (3) gotten burned by multi-platform issues when somebody typed path separators into a string wired into Build Path.

Title basically says it all but I'll elaborate.  With increasing monitor resolution, a 16x16 glyph on a listbox doesn't work very well.  On a 4K monitor this is awful tiny.  This idea is to support larger glyphs in Listboxes, Multi-column Listboxes, and Trees.  Glyphs are used in several places but on favorite of mine is to have item selection with checkboxes, example here.  Allowing for these glyphs to grow with the row height would make them appear more cohesive.  There is a thread discussing this topic, and a work around involving an array of picture rings that is placed over the listbox control.  Here is a demo from that thread:

 

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This work around is fine for simple things but doesn't scale well, and doesn't support trees easily.  I for instance want to have two trees, where a user can drag and drop from one to the other with the larger glyphs coming along with the drop.  Having to handle where the user dropped, and then dynamically building the glyphs to overlay on top of the tree, with indentation, and hiding when a tree's leaf is closed is a major pain.  Please NI add a feature allowing for larger glyphs, and I would be so happy.

The compare tool is fundamentally broken which is somewhat shocking considering that such a tool is essential to any sort of large scale or long term software development.

 

Attached is a basic LV 2023 example which illustrates some of the many flaws with the tool.  If you compare "old version" and "new version" vi without including cosmetic changes, the tool shows 33 differences, most of which are incorrect.

 

NXG had a neat feature I miss in LabVIEW 20xx and that is resizable nodes for operations like OR, AND, and Add.  There are other nodes that could benefit from this too like subtract and multiply, but here is the idea.

 

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I'm aware that the Compound Arithmetic is a resizable node that covers the examples I have here.  But often times I will start with just two inputs so I'll use the OR, then later on I'll need to add a node and now I need to replace it with the Compound Arithmetic and then add the other inputs.  If the suggestion is to just use Compound Arithmetic, then why even have an OR node?

I really like having two different default locations for my terminal labels.  What I do not like so much is that I still end up dragging a lot of labels around after changing a control to an indicator or indicator to control.  I would like it if the label location was automatically moved to the default position when the direction of a terminal is changed. 

 

You could get fancy and only move it if it is currently in the default location, I'd prefer it to always be moved.  And I am not interested in the Quick Drop shortcut here.  I do not want a quick way to clean up the mess I do not want the mess made in the first place.

 

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Sometimes it is hard to open the FP and block diagram of the cloned/reentrant running VIs in middle of a debug to probe the wire value in a big size application.

 

How about adding this option?

 

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Thank You

Adarsh

CLA from 2014

VIMs are awesome but when wire inputs are broken they aren't awesome. They'd be awesomer if there was a way to specify that when specific frames of type specialization structures are active, there is a way to get specific strings added to the error info for the caller. Having a way to add custom strings to VIMs would overcome the general "An unsupported data type is wired to this subVI node." error string we're currently given. This can also help differentiate between LabVIEW breaking during type prop for odd (bug) reasons and properly invalid inputs... Do I need to just delete a wire and re-wire the input or do I need to hope the developer provided good VI documentation?

 

With some additional frames in Type Specialization Structures and maybe something like a subdiagram label but instead it could be a error reporting field at the bottom of a frame, it would be much easier to provide meaningful information back to a developer such as "GUID input only accepts GUID.ctl or a String". Then if the caller breaks with the unsupported data type error for the VIM, error details from the currently active TSSs can be concatenated to the Details string displayed in the Error list dialog. Alternatively, each error message found in TSSs could be separately listed in the Error list.

 

My 10 second idea:

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 Resulting in the Error list perhaps showing it as either an error or concatenated into the Details:

TSS Error list.png

 

All property nodes should use enums to make the code readable and not required to open help every time you need to set a properity.  I find myself creating typeDefs for my self so I don't have to look up what the properity does and to make my code easier to edit.  Example provided is to disable a control on the front panel.  This is in the LabVIEW style guide Smiley Wink

 

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Suggestion: Double clicking a connected terminal on the connector pane highlights and jumps to the connected control. This would be useful for controls that are off screen or hidden.

 

Similar behavior to double clicking the associated terminal/icon on the block diagram, where it automatically repositions the front panel's view.

 

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When entering debug mode (turn execution highlight on) it can be hard to see what is happening.

 

With event structures it can be hard, but there are subtile changes. Sometimes it's impossible. For instance, if you run this VI, and wait a while, it is impossible to why the VI has not stopped. In this case it's easy to deduce, but it can be really hard. Probes also don't provide a solution here...

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SubVI's get a green arrow when they are executing. So, could structures get them as well?

 

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(This is an idea related to Jack's idea here, which however deals with "reshape array".)

 

When using "built array" with parts that are mismatched in lenght, the largest input wins and the rest are padded with the default value for the given datatype (zero for numerics). This is often not desirable, for example when graphing multiple plots.

 

Padding with zero causes extra data (zeroes) to show on the graph that did not exist in the original wires. A more desirable option here would be to pad with NaN so only actual data is graphed.

 

My suggestion is to add an optional input to "built array" that allows defining the pad value is case the inputs are mismatched.

 

Here is an example how it could look like. (of course the icon would probably need to change a little)

 

 

 

This has been discussed in various places like here, but I couldn't find an idea for it...

 

 

There are quite a few LabVIEW primitives which will always run, even if presented with an error on the "error in" terminal. Common examples are "Close Reference" and "Close File". 

 

What would be really useful is to have some kind of visual indication of this behaviour. Ideally this would be a simple marking on the VI icon which could be easily replicated by LV users when we create such VIs ourselves. (It could possibly even be an option in the icon editor!)

 

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Currently the only indication that a VI will run on error is this discrete line in the VI help:

 

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I believe a visual indicator would be much more fitting for LabVIEW as a visual language, and would make this behaviour far more obvious to LabVIEW users.

As it is now, when we select a structure, we can delete it, but everything in it will be gone as well.

 

If we right click, we can select Remove <structure>, and that will remove the structure, but keep everything in the active frame.

 

This idea is quite simple: make Shift+Delete do a Remove <structure>:

 

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As a bonus, CTRL+Delete could execute a Remove and Rewire:

 

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Currently, you can place a probe on a wire while developing, which is an indicator of the data on a wire. I want the ability to CONTROL the data on the wire, with a data forcing mechanism.

 

The implementation would be very simple... right click on a wire, and in the context menu the option "Force" would be right under "Probe." It would pop up a window of the forcing control, and while the VI is running and forcing is set to "Enable", the programmer can control the values that pass on the wire. If the force window were set to "Disable", the data in the wire would be completely controlled by the VI's logic.

 

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I think the implementation by NI could be trivially simple. If you only allow a forcing control to be added during edit mode (not while the VI is running), the force could be added as an inline VI (as denoted by the green rectangle on the wire). The code inside the inline VI would be as follows, and the front panel would be "Data Force (1)" as shown above.

 

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Of course, if you could add a force to a wire during runtime like probes, props NI. But I would be PERFECTLY happy if you could only add these force controls in edit mode prior to running.

 

One level further (and this would be AMAZING, NI, AMAZING): enable and disable certain parts of the cluster that you would like to force and allow the other elements to be controlled by the VI logic. I made the example above because it would be very natural to ONLY force Sensor1 and Sensor2, and letting the output run it's course from your forced input.